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I don't think that guy wanted to be anything but be left alone--regardless of whatever he was doing that was wrong. I don't think he thought I'm gonna be argumentative towards these cops and then I'll be in the media spot light. What you're describing sounds like the by product of the people in the community afterwards--not the guy himself.

1. respect the authority and commitment of the police. 2. don't break the law. 3. don't resist arrest. 4. comply with police officer's requests. No need to worry. Sure. I agree. They still whip the Piss out of people that don't deserve it.

Seriously, I'm gonna vent a little. When I was younger I got arrested for a pretty big time offense. They found several pounds of weed, over $10,000, scales, paraphernalia, a little hash, and a little coke. When they entered the apartment I was polite, helpful, told them where to find what they were looking for, and I respected their authority. By the time they got done searching and cataloging what they found, we were laughing and joking with each other. They put me in the car with no cuffs, and treated me very well. Keep in mind, I was blazed out of my skull, and very high on coke, and a long haired pretty big dude (6'1" ~ 220 and muscular) so you know I looked sketchy as hell. Booking went easy, and I was always treated extremely well because I respected and understood what was going on. When I stood before the judge the officers recommended I be released OR because I was helpful, friendly, and they felt no risk of flight. I was released OR... no shit, all that dope, money, and the possibility of prison and they released me OR. I was told by a big supplier of mine a few years prior when I decided to go big that I needed to be aware of the implications of my decisions. He told me that old ass adage, "Don't do the crime if you can't do the time". He told me that by going as big as I was that the heat was going to be on me. The street level guys don't pass the info down, they pass it up if they get busted. He said that I would get caught, eventually, and that when the cops raided I needed to behave like I stated I did above. So I made my decision and went with it. Honestly, if I had been a dick, or combative, or lied, or hid shit, or resisted, my night would have been a lot worse. The judge made the decision, when all was said and done, to give me the smallest sentence possible. These people that are resisting arrest, and attacking police officers are getting what they deserve. If you can't pay the price for negative actions, you should try to find positive ones instead. Everything that we do in life has a consequence. You get what you give. Police have a difficult job to do, and they have to be mindful of their own safety, and the safety of the public at large. Most of us here, aside from our members who are or have been military (thanks, of course for your service), have no fucking idea what it is like to enter a hostile environment like cops have to so frequently. By judging, belittling, and reducing their ability to do their jobs by such stupid acts like we have seen in Ferguson and now in NYC, we are making their job harder and their presence less effective. I truly believe in both cases that the officers acted in the manner they saw appropriate, and in the case of the NYC officer likely in a manner he had before, but the results were disastrous. Furthermore, the justice system we have had in place for so many years has been considered acceptable. Now, thanks to the media's interpretation of these events, it is a problem. In the US we are presumed innocent until proven guilty, but so many millions of people have chosen to condemn before hearing the whole story. Street justice is the next step, and it is a huge step backwards...

Yeah, there coming just like when all the robbing, riots, and insane shit was going on with the case in ferguson. I do not know why some people do the shit they do; robbing, violent riots etc. Helps nothing, some people are just that fucking ignorant i guess. What is going on in NY? NYPD officer basically executed a guy and the grand jury refused to indict him. The fact that he was obese, had chronic asthma, hypertensive cardiovascular disease, resisted arrest while breaking the law as he was on probation were in no way responsible for this criminal's death, I am sure. And yes, he was told he was being detained, that is when he started to shrug off the officers attempting to do so. I love how people see small edited portions of police, hell, any person on person violence and assume the worst. There is so much that occurs outside the short piece of video tape that we see on TV. In this case the grand jury saw enough of that evidence that they felt it was not a chargeable situation. This dude was a walking heart attack. While the officer was overzealous, none of this would have occurred if the suspect were in better health, had not currently been breaking the law, had not currently been on probation, and had not resisted arrest. Why not point the finger at the offending party? You know... the criminal.

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