Aaron Clinton

But you basically described really any decent sub company person with higher powered subs. Fi for one. I would consider the Zs if I was into hardcore SPL but that's about it. Nothing about the rest of their lineup makes me want to pay the price without going to another company. I started this as a find out type of thread. With the 3515's price tag, I can get an N2 BTL. It spawned from another thread that no one could tell me why they would recommend the dd3515 over the AQ HDC3 or FI BL. I started a thread just like this on 5 other sites. But i was calling out the SSA ZCON. with an estimated 500$ price tag. Why would someone buy a ZCON for 500 when they can get a better n2? this is a business and people dont understand that. no body cares about you, or your setup. they care about your wallet. SSA, DD, and AA for example. all high end retailers, that are in for the kill on some cash money. DD does the best to be honest. my friend brian who is a AA dealer, makes decent margin, but DD is the best money maker. also whoever said a 3500 over an HDC is horiibly mistaken, my old HDC motor is almost as big as my 9500 heres an insider tip the SSA ZCON basically uses the old crossfire motor that Fi oemd. i could buy that sub for 300$ back in the day, now they have brought back the same motor, made it a little better and JACKED UP THE PRICE. why... TO MAKE MONEY!!!! theese subs look famaliar to your HDC, 3500, and ZCON? this is the AB VFL, which basically uses the 3500 motor for half the price http://www.kochaudio.de/shop/index.php?cPath=196_930_937&osCsid=9f18c59201d4eecd74aef550408c140b AB XFL look like the HDC? carbon cone, dd basket, direct connects, JUST A DIFFERENT DUSTCAP!!! http://www.americanbassusa.com/front/showcontent.aspx?fileid=213 Crossfire AHHHH, my favorite company. i am trying out for the team this year. here is the original ZCON, what you guys are about to pay 500$ for http://www.crossfirecaraudio.com/htdoc/cf_m01_product_05_xs.asp business is business go fuck yourselves Wow hostile much? Yes this is a business, and making money is the end goal. Congrats glad you figured that out all by yourself. Now let me ask you this, have you used PERSONALLY each sub you bothered to mention in your post? And I'm really proud that you equate SSA and Crossfire. Its a great comparison, especially when its made 'a little better'. That being said what was 'back in the day' when you cold get the XS from Crossfire for 300 bones? Was it within the past year? Two years? Five years? Time changes price guy. Quite alot. Just look at gas and vehicles. J J, None of our products are Crossfire products re-badged. The Crossfire in question is related to the old Q.

But you basically described really any decent sub company person with higher powered subs. Fi for one. I would consider the Zs if I was into hardcore SPL but that's about it. Nothing about the rest of their lineup makes me want to pay the price without going to another company. I started this as a find out type of thread. With the 3515's price tag, I can get an N2 BTL. It spawned from another thread that no one could tell me why they would recommend the dd3515 over the AQ HDC3 or FI BL. I started a thread just like this on 5 other sites. But i was calling out the SSA ZCON. with an estimated 500$ price tag. Why would someone buy a ZCON for 500 when they can get a better n2? this is a business and people dont understand that. no body cares about you, or your setup. they care about your wallet. SSA, DD, and AA for example. all high end retailers, that are in for the kill on some cash money. DD does the best to be honest. my friend brian who is a AA dealer, makes decent margin, but DD is the best money maker. also whoever said a 3500 over an HDC is horiibly mistaken, my old HDC motor is almost as big as my 9500 heres an insider tip the SSA ZCON basically uses the old crossfire motor that Fi oemd. i could buy that sub for 300$ back in the day, now they have brought back the same motor, made it a little better and JACKED UP THE PRICE. why... TO MAKE MONEY!!!! theese subs look famaliar to your HDC, 3500, and ZCON? this is the AB VFL, which basically uses the 3500 motor for half the price http://www.kochaudio.de/shop/index.php?cPath=196_930_937&osCsid=9f18c59201d4eecd74aef550408c140b AB XFL look like the HDC? carbon cone, dd basket, direct connects, JUST A DIFFERENT DUSTCAP!!! http://www.americanbassusa.com/front/showcontent.aspx?fileid=213 Crossfire AHHHH, my favorite company. i am trying out for the team this year. here is the original ZCON, what you guys are about to pay 500$ for http://www.crossfirecaraudio.com/htdoc/cf_m01_product_05_xs.asp business is business go fuck yourselves The above in red is INCORRECT. The Zcon is it's own motor, same for the Xcon. The Crossfire you are referencing is related to and older Fi driver, NOT the Zcon. The Zcon does not use a 4" coil. The Zcon is not in the same segment at the HDC or 3500. The Zcon does not sacrifice decent sound for maximum output. We are not after the same market segment at the HDC or 3500.

On our drivers, it is noticeable, a little.

Crazy to see all those blown drivers with their motors still attached in the dumpster. Wonder if they got that idea from T3?

Time is running out on this. Really surprising the amount of emails about Sundown equipment and now we are having a SALE!!!

You can get a brand new one shipped for $250 from summit racing. SSA > summit Sorry I buy from where ever I can get the best deals? I don't have cash to spare, otherwise I would... We sell at the lowest authorized price on EVERYTHING. That is why when people find something we carry cheaper, it is not according to NDA which means the product is not authorized and does not carry a warranty.

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If DC is considered, Fi or IA should come before in the conversation, if SSA is in there that would be great too.

The first question that should have been asked, was 'What enclosure is the Q in right now?' Rebuilding is always cheaper then buying new equipment.

Softparts are know to be a little fragile. There are other SPL leaning brands I feel are better money spent.

Things are running a little behind schedule due to coils coming in late, but the build house is working hard to catch up.

Thanks Nick.

Most people don't understand that, or want to understand that. I am sure Nick gets many of the same emails I do, except x50.

It is a little cumbersome at first, but I figured it out.