It doesn't mater if their dcons or not, any sub can take more than rms within reason as long as the user isn't a idiot. It also doens't mater if it was 1500w, the install I did with dcons was too on a ap1500 and only 2 12" dcons in a trunk and "looked" more violent then yours. Not that means anything, but just saying. Looking at all the comments that 16k has made in this thread, their all compliments, every single one of them. It seems like your the one being the douche. All Tim did was give you his opinion, and that was it. Your the one who replied with a smart ass remark. Never once did you say thank you to 16k in this build, not once, not that you have to, but shows your character. If he's such a douche, and always leaves smart ass remarks, then why has he been complimenting your build this whole time? I would dare say that you don't even deserve them. After 13 pages, why do I only see two hand fulls of actuall build productivity. Never once did I see 4 15s walled in your vehicle either, although the tittle of your thread suggests so. I'm not picking sides here or playing favorites, just saying, maybe your the one who shouldn't act like such a douche. /rant