porkchop

uh, like mid 150's quite a few times..... seen 170 something, but if you are familiar with those beast, outside it is just a hum, still say we gotta track down the guy who has a friend.......oh yeah, one of those stories........lmao already........this guy told us his friend has a chevy caprice with six 12"s in it, behind the seat....................doing 238 db's!!!! .........omg , lmao still, a month later, yeah, pretty f*cking awesome, if you ask me!

looking toward doing that^^^^, raining today and he will not bring it out in the rain.

bump!! for jysoe, who truly needs to see this one! lol........ see bud, i am not forking out the big cash just yet. chop

That's a pretty good price for that sub. PAP makes good quality subs. The WMD2's are impressive subs. I doubt you fall in the poor man category of if you were able to afford a SAZ3000d, those aren't cheap amps lol. If you could spend more I'd strongly suggest a Sundown Audio Nightshade. buddy, i sent you a pm....you need to take a look in the sundown thread......i am so deep in the "poor man catergory" i am the 'super moderator of it' !!! ....lmao..... so broke i can't pay attention.

Please dont. After they stole a design of mine to use themselves, tried to lie their way out of it I called it quits. Also- from an actual product standpoint- Look at the spider set up. its one spider, dipped in resin. these start to sag VERY quickly. ask terra how the line of subs he had built for him are working out they are a bunch of lying thieves who "build speakers" from a shed in there backyard. Im asking you honestly- PLEASE look elsewhere. Can you explain in any more detail on what they stole? Curious as I thought they looked like a quality built product. Long story short- I went to pap with a design I wanted built, gave them the specs, etc. They were very nice to me. I ran into some family issues making me unable to proceed with it. Terra (owner of cascade audio, and a friend) then approached me asking if I could use the design, I agreed, but by then it was to late... PAP already had taken the design (down to the "t", as i believe the expression goes) and started production on it as "the new WMD!"". Now, it isnt the greatest design, or even anything super special, really, however, it is beyond low class to steal a design. simple as that. And then you have another poster claim they stole pics/powder coating from him.. it just gets longer! Why would ANYONE buy from them?? (to the op- I am NOT attacking you. I sincerely hope this woofer is what you are looking for, and treats you well, leaves you satisfied!) Also- these come from Terra, and you certianly don't have to believe me on them, but here is some of the issues with his line of speakers (built by pap) 1. He offered 2 choices of colors for frames- purple and green, iirc. "somehow" other pap customers seemed to be getting these colored frames, even though there was an agreement between pap and cascade that would not be happening. 2. Dust Caps folding. PAP used cheap thin cardboard caps on the omega's.. A high percentage of them have creased the caps, or even blown them completely off. 3. Aforementioned spider sag. 4. breach of confidentiality. PAP posted pics of them building the omega's. This was a problem as (and I think most build houses do or have this) there was an agreement that pap would of course NOT post who they built for, or what lines they built for them. In case that brand owner/representative did not want this disclosed. (I'm pretty sure Terra didn't..) 5. parts availability- PAP wanted blown omega's sent to them to be reconed vs. selling Terra the recones. now, this seems like less of a headache for Terra, but see above about confidentiality.. Notice how cascades never get reconed by Terra.. ya.. there is a reason. no parts. I'm sure there is more, but I either do not know it, or cannot think of it ATM. Again-OP best of luck, i really mean that. I hope its a great sub, it sure looks pretty. Also- this is just a random thought- that WMD they sell for 700 bucks (or whatever it was) was to be sold to me at around 325 each (and even at that level they make a nice profit I'm sure!) Quite a markup! Lord Baccus for a spokesman really doesnt help either... unless you are marketing to the inbred hillbilly crowd:p dang , sorry visitor, like i said, this probably boils down to the one fact that i can offer you for comfort, i am not buying it from them, so there for no sale for them, no profit! i will not leave your story untold, but i really am hoping that the sub does well for me! even at $200 bucks i have high hopes for it. you mentioned that it was your design "down to a t" , and you had said that it had the " spider sag".... i have no idea what that ruly means but, is this something that failed in your design? do you know of a fix for it? how does this effect a sub? i see folks rebuilding subs alot, could someone rebuild this one if needed? just curious. thanks chop

if i was to bridge one side at 425 watts and use other a two channels for like his mids, what do you think?

so you are saying it will be doing 225 then? i think he reall wanted to get more out of it, kinda sucks, he got it dirt cheap.

Crunch Powerzone P 900.4 4-Channel Amplification 900W 2 / 3 / 4-Channel A/B Class Amplifier 115W x 4-Ch @ 4-Ohms or 225W x 4-Ch @ 2-Ohms or 450W x 2-Ch @ 4-Ohms Dynamic Music Watts we have this and (2) IA 187 12"s ..... dual 4ohm. what do i need to do to wire the two subs in order to get the most out of this amp? thanks Chop

i will look in a few minutes, way too many windows open right now, lol..... i guess with that info in mind of being limited on exposure and the budget being stated....... take your top three, best likes, and best cost, and then apply this very scientifical application on determing the ones for you to "start" with.... any mini miny moe.......lol sorry bud, but it is really a preferance thing, you are looking at high end brand, all of which have something good to offer to your front stage. be back in a while, chop

hey guy, welcome, jump right in here and make yourself at home.

not sure if this will put you any farther down the road but for what it is worth, you said your new, so i am not sure if you are familar with these things, the kick panel offer a good spot to add additional components and there might be a 'bolt-in' pod already made for your truck, i think q-forms are the name of one of the brands, if this works you can add components with ease without too many mods to the truck. there are also horns that you can purchase for your mids, they can mount nicely under the dash of some makes without a lot of mods there also. you have listed several nice brands...... problem is, you will find that it will come down too a personall taste. i have seen experianced auido guys disagree 180degrees about the same set. if you have any shops around or the opportunity to go to a sound off or even most car shows will sport a few decent installs, give em all a listen, remember the ones that stand out to you and perhaps zero in from there......... i seem to think the sellinums(sp) are sweet, heard them a couple of times this summer, currently i am rocking three factory mids, fourth is blown, ha ha. good luck, chop

alright, > comes back with cold pop< , he made right with me, it's all good, your right bro^^ "it's the internet, but i sorta get all caught up in this, as a step outside of the daily bump and grind, almost a second reality, where perhaps in a world of great audio, i almost am a voice, i want to grow into this and i have no other form of that than here, i want to be accepted and not rejected, there are folks on here that have my respect fully for many reasons, i have meet several in person already, i am not one for being looked down on, fact being, us hood rats have our pride and not much else, i am a old east sider , i have a sense of respect that runs deep, i guess even on the internet it shows through. but it is all good, he said his peace and i said mine, i was sitting in his truck this summer getting ademo, i will probably be in the next one...... >opens new window, checking tracking number<

Let him cock off. If he wants to be an ass with anonymity, just let him. If he starts personally attacking you unprovoked, then theres an issue. Otherwise, ignore him. It isn't the first time that somebody decided to bring an immature fight to the internet, and it sure as hell won't be the last. your right,,,,, i guess currently he is pm'ing me saying he don't recall saying anything like that, so i copied and pasted it back to him, he says "well i call all my buds a noob..." but you know as well as i do, writing that and only that will be percieved as sattire, and nothing else, no one wants a bad rep on here, nor a said acceptance to shit talking..... i try hard to be cool with all, it just rubs me in a bad way.....

wtf is this motherpuckers problem with me? i have never said shit negative about him, he wants to throw me under the bus like that? i don't have his knowledge, skills. experiance, or cash....definetly not his cash.....but i have a fondness of car audio like the next guy, why the hell does he need to address me as "such a noob"? he is better than me in a lot of ways already but why must he have my pucking name in his mouth if he has nothing positive to say? 2000lade can kiss my pucking sack, he might be better than me on some things, but at least i have enough respect not to shit on the little guy for fun.......that is bullshit......> throws pucking key board, goes to get a pepsi.......

^^^ yup, thats was my approach, guess i should of said it, give us a feel of where you are going with your bargin, already there seems to be some better deals out there than what you have, long term use would be one factor to consider.....

welcome

well there is the problem about studying a certain subject, IT"S IMPOSSIBLE!, it can't be done, so now i am going to bed all curious about t-lines for my single 15" sub...... where did today go/ good news though, got my tracking number, something weighing 55.2 lbs. is headed my way! chop

He was kidding. Funky Pups are gone. They were an uber cheap little driver that someone a few years ago bought up the remaining stock and had a huge group buy. You can get FP dust caps from Mach5. really? ^ i would love to install a FP dustcap on a bad a** sub... tell em' they are a new line, new release, lol, that would get some folks all messed up, lol.

man, i gotta come get that demo.

get er' done sander, you will likey!

uh did you post any numbers not sealed as of yet, like outlaw?