Posted October 27, 200717 yr Can a pair of strapped 1500's run a Dual 2 BTL safely? Its below the rated two ohms, but seeing as the power test were dropping insane numbers, I figured it was worth a shot to ask if its been done.
October 27, 200717 yr Has it been done? YesIs it covered under warrenty? NoWill it work if you have adequate electrical? Should
October 27, 200717 yr Author By adequate, what do you mean? Is a 1/0 run for each, with an Optima Yellow, on a 90-100 Amp Alt. adequate?
October 27, 200717 yr yeah just for the beginning really try to watch how hard you dim and how low voltage drops. my saz1500 has seen some pretty low voltages in my stock electrical honda accord, so just be careful, keep the gain down and dont kill your car. because your car will die before the amps will. i fackin guarntee that! lol. its coming true for myne...
October 28, 200717 yr By adequate, what do you mean? Is a 1/0 run for each, with an Optima Yellow, on a 90-100 Amp Alt. adequate?Two 15000Ds at 1/2 ohm each? That is not adequate. At full output you will dip into the 10s on voltage within a matter of 30 seconds or less. I would highly suggest a 200+ amp alternator, the largest starter battery under the hood you can get, and a Powermaster D3100 or Kinetik 2400 in the back for such a setup if you really want to take advantage of all the power you have on tap.
October 28, 200717 yr Author Hmm... Would the 1/0, Yellow top, with the 90-100A alt work on a 2ohm strapped load? I might be able to jam another battery in the back, but as far as alternators go, are there aftermarket HO alts for foreign cars? Toyota/ScionThanks-Trevor
October 28, 200717 yr Hmm... Would the 1/0, Yellow top, with the 90-100A alt work on a 2ohm strapped load? I might be able to jam another battery in the back, but as far as alternators go, are there aftermarket HO alts for foreign cars? Toyota/ScionThanks-Trevoryou should check out iraggi alternator too.. check out his ebay site probably the best way to contact him too.
October 28, 200717 yr Hmm... Would the 1/0, Yellow top, with the 90-100A alt work on a 2ohm strapped load? I might be able to jam another battery in the back, but as far as alternators go, are there aftermarket HO alts for foreign cars? Toyota/ScionThanks-TrevorTrevor,Yes sir, you can get HO alts for imports I've seen them up to 200 amps for Honda, I'm sure someone can make one for your Toyota vehicle.
October 29, 200717 yr Author Well, its probably going in a 2008 or 2009 Scion xB, which uses the same engine as the tC and Camry.Its the 2.4L 2AZ-FE engine Appreciate all your help!-Trevor
October 29, 200717 yr imports are more expense then domestic so i will say a good one is going to be in the 400 hundreds
October 29, 200717 yr Author Woah, DAYM! Thats quite a bit for an alternator. I guess I'll have to work that into the budget too.
October 29, 200717 yr Author Well, actually, my initial setup is only going to include one 1500. That should keep me happy for awhile, until I can afford the other 1500 and everything that goes with it. So, I'm thinking my best bet is to buy a Dual 2 BTL, and run it on the 1500d until I can afford to run another 1500d with all the goodies. And on that thought, is a 90A alt, with 1/0 running from a yellow top enough to juice a 1500 @ 1ohm?Also, Sundownz, I notice on the 1500d power testing, you had a starting battery, another BIG battery, and your factory 85A alt. I'm guessing you were only running the amps at full power for short bursts, and for my street slamming usage, something beefier is needed. Am I close? Thinking out loud,-Trevor
October 29, 200717 yr Well, actually, my initial setup is only going to include one 1500. That should keep me happy for awhile, until I can afford the other 1500 and everything that goes with it. So, I'm thinking my best bet is to buy a Dual 2 BTL, and run it on the 1500d until I can afford to run another 1500d with all the goodies. And on that thought, is a 90A alt, with 1/0 running from a yellow top enough to juice a 1500 @ 1ohm?Also, Sundownz, I notice on the 1500d power testing, you had a starting battery, another BIG battery, and your factory 85A alt. I'm guessing you were only running the amps at full power for short bursts, and for my street slamming usage, something beefier is needed. Am I close? Thinking out loud,-TrevorTrevor,Correct -- for continuous loud play on material that keeps the amps power output maximized a larger alternator is necessary. The battery is a "buffer" so to speak and can only stay above 12.8 volts so long when the output of the alternator has been overrun by current demand.One 1500D @ 1 ohm will run fine on stock electrical setups as long as you don't "peg it out" for long periods of time -- for actual music listening you should be good to go pending your electrical upgrades.I know that Excessive amperage makes one to the fit the old xB and xA so I would contact them about your new xB as that is probably the same as the tC alternator.
October 31, 200717 yr Trevor I just ordered a 300 amp alternator from Dominick Iraggi for my Sundown 3000D system..It was a direct bolt on and does 300 amps at 1.3 revs....I have a Scion tC so i am certain he makes one for the xB
October 31, 200717 yr As far as running a pair of Saz-1500d's strapped on a 1 ohm nominal load with a weak electrical system. I have done it. Do I reccomend it, no. I gained almost 4db when using a battery bank and h/o alt (powered off of one of my friends rigs for testing). At comps I was sitting a 12.2 v static, It took less than 8 seconds to drop into the tens, and this is with the gains turned down quite a bit.Good luck and I hope things work out for you.
November 1, 200717 yr Author Hmm, very interesting. I think I've got it planned out now. A D2 BTL running off of a 1500d, and maybe another later. Just waiting on the cash.