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I'm leaning towards a Remington 700 sps in 308. From everything I read it seems like something that's easily upgradeable in the future if I decide to do so, and I wouldn't be taking a hit by having to sell it, and getting something else.

My uncle has a Leupold 3x9 rifleman, said he got it for $220, and works well.

As I said earlier about shooting 250+ yards, I'll actually be going for a lot further. Pulled out his range finder on some shit, so I had a better gauge.

So $450-600 on the rifle, $220 on the glass. Little more then what I originally wanted to spend, but down the road if I get more into it, I'll have headroom for upgrades.

Fifteen minute drive, and twenty minute hike with all the shit will put me "in the middle of nowhere," so to speak.

That is a fantastic rifle to start with especially since you are a tinker nut. Everything can be upgraded and with a .308 bolt you can swap into something like a 6.5CM and have a laser beam.

They are all the rage.

It will take a LONG time to shoot out a .308 bbl though.

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Sean, what level is your warlock in WoW? Server? You get that stamina trinket you were after? I agree that the helmet piece looks gay, but the stats are so worth it.

I'm leaning towards a Remington 700 sps in 308. From everything I read it seems like something that's easily upgradeable in the future if I decide to do so, and I wouldn't be taking a hit by having to sell it, and getting something else.

My uncle has a Leupold 3x9 rifleman, said he got it for $220, and works well.

As I said earlier about shooting 250+ yards, I'll actually be going for a lot further. Pulled out his range finder on some shit, so I had a better gauge.

So $450-600 on the rifle, $220 on the glass. Little more then what I originally wanted to spend, but down the road if I get more into it, I'll have headroom for upgrades.

Fifteen minute drive, and twenty minute hike with all the shit will put me "in the middle of nowhere," so to speak.

That is a fantastic rifle to start with especially since you are a tinker nut. Everything can be upgraded and with a .308 bolt you can swap into something like a 6.5CM and have a laser beam.

They are all the rage.

It will take a LONG time to shoot out a .308 bbl though.

I checked out some more shops today, and pretty set on it now. After glass, it seems a decent stock, and possibly trigger upgrade can make it pretty trick without burning the wallet too much.

Which is perfect because I don't mind spending more money if it's spread over time.

I feel like I read somewhere about the barrel with the 308 lasting 3000 - 4000 rounds? Which sounds nice in comparison to some of the others people were bitching about not lasting very long.

Time to prolapse my rectum, but I probably won't set a new max.

Thank god I only bench & dead lift outside, and the rest inside. About 95F today. :woot:

I'm leaning towards a Remington 700 sps in 308. From everything I read it seems like something that's easily upgradeable in the future if I decide to do so, and I wouldn't be taking a hit by having to sell it, and getting something else.

My uncle has a Leupold 3x9 rifleman, said he got it for $220, and works well.

As I said earlier about shooting 250+ yards, I'll actually be going for a lot further. Pulled out his range finder on some shit, so I had a better gauge.

So $450-600 on the rifle, $220 on the glass. Little more then what I originally wanted to spend, but down the road if I get more into it, I'll have headroom for upgrades.

Fifteen minute drive, and twenty minute hike with all the shit will put me "in the middle of nowhere," so to speak.

That is a fantastic rifle to start with especially since you are a tinker nut. Everything can be upgraded and with a .308 bolt you can swap into something like a 6.5CM and have a laser beam.

They are all the rage.

It will take a LONG time to shoot out a .308 bbl though.

I checked out some more shops today, and pretty set on it now. After glass, it seems a decent stock, and possibly trigger upgrade can make it pretty trick without burning the wallet too much.

Which is perfect because I don't mind spending more money if it's spread over time.

The stock is only important if you shoot quite a bit. So just use the 700 stock until you know what you don't like. I know some 700 triggers can be adjusted. I wouldn't worry about that at all though. You won't know what pull you want until you have spent some time with it. .5 pound trigger may be cool on bench rest F class shooting, but if you do ANY tactical shooting you will want much heavier than you think. Tactical meaning not shooting from a bench

There are 2 major components that will affect how you shoot. #1 the barrel. #2 the glass.

As long as the bolt, the trigger, and the stock do not critically fail, they will not affect accuracy much. It's all just seasoning.

The REAL cost of shooting is the consumables. Mostly that means brass and barrels. For guys like me it also means gas to get somewhere to shoot.

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Aaron, what is SSA some cheap knockoff?

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Definitely some cheap Chinese knockoff company...

where am I going and why am I in this hand basket?

You won't listen at all Stefan, but I would re-evaluate your thinking on the glass. Sean is right and so is Ryan. Unless the scope is free any money spent on it will be a waste if you want to continue shooting.

Also if you buy a decent used scope you will be able to resell it for a good price. So your net loss will be much closer to zero if you buy a better used product.

Maybe Leupold can do it, but I cannot imagine that scope being built well for that price considering all the different specs it has. I'm just skeptical.

Maybe I am being a jackass and pissing in your cornflakes over the optics issue. I just hate to see you get burned. Even Leupold's specs page has some issues with the scope that just don't make a lot of sense.

That cost for that many functions smells to me is all.

Then again... I am the D bag who purchased a scope with the intent to buy a rifle. Now I have a super delux scope in the basement with me..... and no rifle to put it on!

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I understand where you guys are coming from, but I can't justify spending that much on everything until I know its something im going to do enough of to make worth wild. :)

Deadlifts complete.

Chins complete.

Bench complete.

Time for dips.

I understand where you guys are coming from, but I can't justify spending that much on everything until I know its something im going to do enough of to make worth wild. smile.png

Again do what makes you happy. Just understand that if you DO enjoy this hobby you are out money. It's not like buying a billion watt amp and sub without getting the alternator done too, just not using the amp to its potential.

Cheep scopes are like head units that may or may not play the music you want. And it's unreliable as to when they will. Especially since they may loose their zero.

I'll be blunt, you saying you can't justify the expense is based on a false premise. If the scope don't work, even the best rifle sucks. The best scope will at least be a baramoter of how good or bad the rifle is.

You said you would spend more as time goes on. Just wait until that time has gone by and get something worth while.

As I said, you don't want to hear it. You want to shoot NOW, but it's just my .02.

yes but. out of no where sean said his favorite quote, i may just be on edge.. because i laughed at your BJ comment,.. and im in texas.. but i wondered if it was directed to me.

Was meant to make a smile

So, I'm looking into a coffee grinder again. I bought a cheap burr mill that was great for a while, but something has messed up and sometimes almost whole beans get through. I also bought a tiny french press and am going to replace that while I'm at it.

For the press I figure I can just pick up a Bodum at Target, but I wanted to go a different route on the grinder.

I really don't have the budget to spend $100 on a grinder and I know that for coffee geeks less than $100 is a sin, but I'm going to do it anyways. I've head that this grinder is one of the best under $100. Any tips from the coffee croud?

I didn't pay much more for my Super Jolly than that. Well add a $40 set of burrs, but otherwise the same. I wouldn't do it. Wrong budget. Hand grinder in that price range.

Stefan, here is a really really really really really good article I suggest you read.

http://demigodllc.com/articles/practical-long-range-rifle-shooting-equipment/

Honestly. It is gold. Read part 1, 2, and 3. The philosophy behind everything and when you see the $$$$ math add up you may just decide you want a .22 or to only shoot for giggles rarely.

It's a HUGE money sink.

I understand where you guys are coming from, but I can't justify spending that much on everything until I know its something im going to do enough of to make worth wild. smile.png

If the resale is the same as the purchase price you aren't spending, but just without your money for a little while. When you buy a cheap POS you throw your money out the window. Seriously shop used.

Buy cheap crap over and over and over or just invest in a quality scope from the outset. High quality doesn't have to necessarily mean high price, either. I would also say the same about a lot of other things: tools, barbecue grills, power equipment, boats, boat motors, kitchen knives, personal computers, televisions, clothing, etc.

all of which have bitten me or someone I've known in the ass by cheaping out

yes but. out of no where sean said his favorite quote, i may just be on edge.. because i laughed at your BJ comment,.. and im in texas.. but i wondered if it was directed to me.

If it were directed towards you, I would be inclined to think you more steer than queer. You're a big hunk o'beef.

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