i read that the nightshades rms is 1500 and i seen a guy run each nightshade 15 with a saz3000 is that a special order woofer?

I would not recommend doing that for a daily driver but yes it can be done if you know what you are doing.

i read that the nightshades rms is 1500 and i seen a guy run each nightshade 15 with a saz3000 is that a special order woofer?

Yeah Jacob does do some customizing to them if you want one that can handle that for daily.

i read that the nightshades rms is 1500 and i seen a guy run each nightshade 15 with a saz3000 is that a special order woofer?

Yeah Jacob does do some customizing to them if you want one that can handle that for daily.

do u know the extra charge im ordering the saz4500 so i would need about 2500 rms daily?

From my understanding the nightshades are being phased out for the new version that is coming out with that amount of power, if I was you I would just wait and get the rest of my system together. But if you want to get some version 1's now if Jacob has any to customize, you will have to talk to him and ask him he would be the only person to know the in depth details about it.

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IMO they dont need that much power but if you insist then go ahead, they will be pass loud as shit on the 1500 rms that is recommended. Dont think that putting those extra features on there and getting a SAZ-4500D and thinking your gonna be balls out loud. Probably wouldnt notice the difference if someone had two nightshades on a SAZ-3000 or 3500D in the output but maybe the meter might catch it but that is all install dependent also.

I think Jacob might be all out of V1 motors he was pretty low when I bought mine Im talking had like 4 or 5 left before I paid for my 3

Z v2 will be taking the place........1500 watt rms

i read that the nightshades rms is 1500 and i seen a guy run each nightshade 15 with a saz3000 is that a special order woofer?

Yeah Jacob does do some customizing to them if you want one that can handle that for daily.

do u know the extra charge im ordering the saz4500 so i would need about 2500 rms daily?

Have you order your 4500 yet? Because if not you will have to wait for the next run! Jacob is SOLD OUT!

Yes, the Z v.2 will be our new 1500 RMS woofer... they are VERY efficient woofers and we suggest sticking to RMS. They are 1-2dB louder at 1500 watts than the NS v.1 was... so you get the output of running more power without actually having more power. Anyone running 1500 RMS will get best results with this woofer.

The NS v.2 will be a 2000-watt RMS woofer... also a little more efficient than the v.1 but will handle ALOT more power... based on the R&D I did with the "Monster" prototype woofer but with several improvements. If you have 2000+ watts this will be the sub to get.

A little Nightshade v.1 history:

1st run -- Open pole vent with 42mm coil, original model... sticking to 1500 RMS suggested

** We offered some re-cones with 56mm coils at this time

2nd run -- We moved to a 50mm coil and a plastic pole vent plug

3rd run -- We improved the 50mm coil with some collar venting and used an aluminum plug

We made a few custom ones with plugs + 56mm coils but all-in-all I preferred the 50mm coil with collar venting for the v.1 model.

Starting with adding the 56mm coil and/or plastic pole caps people starting running 3000Ds on them.

Yes, the Z v.2 will be our new 1500 RMS woofer... they are VERY efficient woofers and we suggest sticking to RMS. They are 1-2dB louder at 1500 watts than the NS v.1 was... so you get the output of running more power without actually having more power. Anyone running 1500 RMS will get best results with this woofer.

The NS v.2 will be a 2000-watt RMS woofer... also a little more efficient than the v.1 but will handle ALOT more power... based on the R&D I did with the "Monster" prototype woofer but with several improvements. If you have 2000+ watts this will be the sub to get.

A little Nightshade v.1 history:

1st run -- Open pole vent with 42mm coil, original model... sticking to 1500 RMS suggested

** We offered some re-cones with 56mm coils at this time

2nd run -- We moved to a 50mm coil and a plastic pole vent plug

3rd run -- We improved the 50mm coil with some collar venting and used an aluminum plug

We made a few custom ones with plugs + 56mm coils but all-in-all I preferred the 50mm coil with collar venting for the v.1 model.

Starting with adding the 56mm coil and/or plastic pole caps people starting running 3000Ds on them.

Got a Z v.1 for now on the SAZ-2000d at 2 ohms and will get a Nightshade v.2 for the SAZ-2000D at 1 ohm when it comes out (or maybe two Nightshade v.2 12"s on 2-SAZ-200D's).