Posted February 4, 201015 yr Originally I thought my enclosure specs were very close to these, tuning and volume wise:42W" x 22H" x 22D" - outer dimensions= 9.84961ft3 gross volume7.3ft3 net volumetuned to 32Hz6W" x 20.5H" for 123in2 of port areaport 1-14.5" + port 2- 7" = 21.5" port lengthAfter reading through Chops end correction thread, Ive decided to do the math myself and find out what Ive really got. This is what Ive come up with. Im way off...The port length is actually 27.5". I had no idea how to measure the port.The tuning is more like 30.3Hzport volume calculation: 6W" x 20.5H"=123in2123in2 x 27.5"=3382.5in23382.5in2/1728in2= 1.96ft3 of port volume9.84961ft3-1.96ft3(port volume)-.26ft3(driver displacement)= 7.89ft3 net volumeNow with end correction, I have come up with these numbers.The port length is 30.5". The tuning is actually 29.1Hz123in2 x 30.5"= 3751.5in23551.5in2/1728in2= 2.17ft3 of port volume.9.84961ft3-2.17ft3-.26ft3= 7.42 ft3 net volumeSo now my specs stand corrected. The new numbers are:42W" x 22H" x 22D"= 9.84961ft3 gross volume7.42ft3 net volumetuned to 29.1Hz123in2 of port areaSo in summation of enclosure calcs like RE...they sure arent exact. I knew I was close but thought it was closer than that. Get yourself a calculator, pencil, and paper and do it the right way.Anything I missed or flubbed up?
February 4, 201015 yr Glad you posted this because after reading that topic on end correction I was in the dark also, I just started learning how to do these the paper and pencil method (this will help me out a lot).
February 4, 201015 yr Author Glad you posted this because after reading that topic on end correction I was in the dark also, I just started learning how to do these the paper and pencil method (this will help me out a lot).It seemed a bit confusing but the images on the JL site helped out a lot. Im a visual learner dude. I need the pics to really understand.
February 4, 201015 yr Hate to say it but your still off. You forgot 1.5" in your port length somewhere, if I had to guess it would be .75" for the front baffle and .75" for the port board after the turn(assuming your using .75" wood). Also your volume is not right, your only figuring the internal port volume, in other words you forgot to include the volume of the boards that make up the port. Just a side note also, it bothers me when people figure out the port volume separate from the enclosure and subtract it, that works fine for ports that are straight but as soon as the port turns it will mess up the volume of the enclosure and in the end tuning.
February 4, 201015 yr Are you using any internal bracing? With what you gave I come up with 8.059ft^3 before end correction. Bromo could you tell us where were wrong?
February 4, 201015 yr Author Hate to say it but your still off. You forgot 1.5" in your port length somewhere, if I had to guess it would be .75" for the front baffle and .75" for the port board after the turn(assuming your using .75" wood). Also your volume is not right, your only figuring the internal port volume, in other words you forgot to include the volume of the boards that make up the port. Just a side note also, it bothers me when people figure out the port volume separate from the enclosure and subtract it, that works fine for ports that are straight but as soon as the port turns it will mess up the volume of the enclosure and in the end tuning.Figures. Not quite sure where you got the extra 1.5" in the port length though. Measuring down the center of both ports, right? 14.5"+3"+3"+7"=27.5" physical length. Yes Im using .75" mdf.I do understand about the board volume. I did indeed forget to account that. I came up with .13ft3 for the first port board and .06ft3 for the second port board. Sound about right?How do I figure out the port volume in a way where it doesnt bother you? Seriously, what do you mean? How is it different for the turn?
February 4, 201015 yr Author Are you using any internal bracing? With what you gave I come up with 8.059ft^3 before end correction. Bromo could you tell us where were wrong?No internal bracing on this enclosure. Only .169ft3 difference. What was your math for that?
February 4, 201015 yr Are you using any internal bracing? With what you gave I come up with 8.059ft^3 before end correction. Bromo could you tell us where were wrong?No internal bracing on this enclosure. Only .169ft3 difference. What was your math for that?I used this except for the port ... Enclosure Volume Calculator (EVC) I did the port math real quick at work by hand. But am distracted so more than likely way off.
February 4, 201015 yr Yeah aren't ports fun to design. I just designed my own enclosure with kerfed port and did ALL the math myself. I double checked my numbers on two port calculators and was only a 1/4 of a hertz off on tuning so I'm pretty happy. Don't forget to cut the port wall shorter 1/2 the width/height (depending on box type) of the port. I sent a PM to that guy on here that claims to design boxes for people but he never PMed me back after two weeks so I figured it out myself.
February 4, 201015 yr Author Are you using any internal bracing? With what you gave I come up with 8.059ft^3 before end correction. Bromo could you tell us where were wrong?No internal bracing on this enclosure. Only .169ft3 difference. What was your math for that?I used this except for the port ... Enclosure Volume Calculator (EVC) I did the port math real quick at work by hand. But am distracted so more than likely way off.What number did you use for the port volume in in3? That one threw me off. My port volume is in in2.Edit: brain fart, got it.
February 4, 201015 yr Port length = .75" for the front baffle + 14.5" length to the bend + 6" of port in the bend + .75" board that makes port wall + 7" port length after bend = 29" physical port length + 3" half port width for end correction = 32" of effective port length.Then way I calculate volume is after the port is already in the box. You cut up the spaces in to squares and add them together. Like this, don't pay attention to the numbers in the picture it is just an example.Where your green area is 33.75" internal width * 13.75" internal depth * 20.5" internal height = 9513.28 in^3 + (the orange area 26.75"internal width * 6.75" internal depth * 20.5" internal height = 3701.53 in^3) = 13214.81 / 1728 = 7.65 ft^3 - .26 sub displacement = 7.39 ft^3End result looking like this.
February 4, 201015 yr Author Yeah aren't ports fun to design. I just designed my own enclosure with kerfed port and did ALL the math myself. I double checked my numbers on two port calculators and was only a 1/4 of a hertz off on tuning so I'm pretty happy. Don't forget to cut the port wall shorter 1/2 the width/height (depending on box type) of the port. I sent a PM to that guy on here that claims to design boxes for people but he never PMed me back after two weeks so I figured it out myself.That enclosure had some math going into it, I bet. Thats pretty good to get that close too.Actually this enclosure is already built. Just trying to figure out the real specs so I know where to go from here when I build a new one.Those guys that make enclosures on here are super busy. At least thats what Ive always heard.
February 4, 201015 yr Author Port length = .75" for the front baffle + 14.5" length to the bend + 6" of port in the bend + .75" board that makes port wall + 7" port length after bend = 29" physical port length + 3" half port width for end correction = 32" of effective port length.Then way I calculate volume is after the port is already in the box. You cut up the spaces in to squares and add them together. Like this, don't pay attention to the numbers in the picture it is just an example.Where your green area is 33.75" internal width * 13.75" internal depth * 20.5" internal height = 9513.28 in^3 + (the orange area 26.75"internal width * 6.75" internal depth * 20.5" internal height = 3701.53 in^3) = 13214.81 / 1728 = 7.65 ft^3 - .26 sub displacement = 7.39 ft^3End result looking like this.Now I see where the 1.5" extra comes from. Thanks for clearing that up. These visual aids are awesome.Are you sure you dont want me to paypal you funds for a copy of this program?
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