http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&client=ms-android-sprint-us&gl=us&biw=533&bih=93&tbm=isch&sa=1&q=new+2012+havoc+subwoofer&oq=new+2012+havoc+subwoofer&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&gs_l=mobile-gws-serp.12...12528.15557.0.16788.5.5.0.0.0.0.209.720.0j4j1.5.0...0.0.&mvs=0#i=10

The right is the gcon

Left is havoc

Wtf another "they look the same so they are" threads?

On the thread on smd it said the right one was a chaos

The right is the gcon

That is not a gcon.

Wtf another "they look the same so they are" threads?

Not saying they are the same, just saw the new Ascendant line and was surprised to see the cosmetic similarity.

Wtf another "they look the same so they are" threads?

Not saying they are the same, just saw the new Ascendant line and was surprised to see the cosmetic similarity.

I was really referring to the thread and comments on the other end of the link.

The link is just taking me to Google.

The link is just taking me to Google.

SAME! ... lol ... give us a working link broski!!!

http://www.stevemeadedesigns.com/board/topic/136127-aa-havoc/

They are both havocs in the picture.

They are OEM'd by the same company. Also just because they look alike definately doesnt mean they are alike

Look at the difference in the size of the slug, they can't be the same model.

I think that's the direction the build house (Fi) is headed. Huge bumped back plates instead of the 3rd slug. Look at the SSD, the Q, the SP4, the new Ascendant drivers. They all share that trait and personally I think it's a great idea.

Product recognition is awesome because in 5-10 years, (if the hobby is still big) everybody will remember those drivers that Fi built with the big ol steel asses.

Never mind.

Fi had the Q look like both of those subs first.

Never mind.

Fi had the Q look like both of those subs first.

And other companies that they OEM'd for had the motor before the Q. Actually that "style" of motor was designed before Fi was formed.

'I'll have a twist of lemon.'

Fi had the Q look like both of those subs first.

And other companies that they OEM'd for had the motor before the Q. Actually that "style" of motor was designed before Fi was formed.

Just meant out of the 2 subs being compared.

I really don't get why people compare subs in looks.

I really don't get why people compare subs in looks.

This was nothing or relevant to comparing brand or sub, just saw and stated, a similar cosmetic feature and was and as far as I know is not featued on AA's web site. Without T/S there would be the comparison.

Edited May 26, 201213 yr by Optimus_Prime

This is some old trival bullshit.

The link is just taking me to Google.

same here

Going to close this topic as it has run it's course.