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I personally would get the subs I want now and focus on an enclosure as well, then use the extra money to buy a cheap used amp to hold me over till I get the amp I want.

Stay tuned this will be one for the record books! :popcorn: :drink40:

Vehicle: 2001 Chevy Astro AWD Alternator: 300amp Iraggi Alternator Batteries: 3 D3400.... 1 up front and 2 in the back Wire: 3 runs of Power Wire HyperFlex... 2 grounds for front battery... 2 seperate grounds per battery in the rear... Alternator wires: 2 runs ran for power from alt and 2 ground from alt Front stage: 2 6.5" oxygen audio compenents( with 2 extra if I am not satisfied with just the 1) Sub Stage: 2 18" Zcons in a 20 cubic enclosure after displacements.... For comps it will be tuned to 36hz with 482sq inches of port area... for daily it will be tuned to 30hz with 321sq inches of port area Amplifier front stage: MB Quart 4 channel Amplifier Sub stage: Stetsom 5k2e @ 2 Ohms _________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________

need pics as to what your doing.

I think we have found your problem. Turn the bass boost off, and probably turn the gain down too until you read up on how to properly set it. If you have any bass boost or "loud" features on your deck turn them off as well.

A pulp cone will be slightly heavier, increasing moving mass, it should sound "warmer"

I wouldn't, for the cost you would have into a cobbled together passive set you would be better off to go with something like those Alpine's that you can get off ebay for $160 shipped that are designed to work as a system. And I highly doubt any of those speakers would perform any better than the Alpine's. I'm not trying to sell you the Alpine's, but I also don't think what you have listed there is any better of an option.....it's more than likely a worse option.

$24 Goldwood GW-6028 : Frequency Range 55-3kHz $20 Goldwood GW-206/8 : Frequency response: 60-3,000 Hz $20 Peerless SDS-160F25PR01-08 : Frequency response: 35-3,000 Hz $10 Focal 6M115 : Frequency response: 65-5,000 Hz $28 Peerless 830657 : Frequency response: 40-3,000 Hz $10 JAMO 20414 : Frequency response: 40-4,000 Hz

What if I create this passive system, and then go active later on when I pick up a 4ch amplifier .........??? $22 Tang Band 28-1177SB : Recommended frequency range above 1500Hz $6 or this tweeter: Sinar Baja TWD25NH05 : Frquency range: 3000 to 20kHz

Hey man, when are we gonna start before its too cold!

right..........

Done for the night!!

Headrest are the new thing Bro. Got to mount a pair in the headrest for that stereo effect. im thinking these seats lance

DUH! the KW SPECIAL!!!! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! It worked for his style but not mine!

lol thanks... actually the car stills moves pretty good after putting the subs in.... i can already do a hairtrick... i just think with a bigger box/bigger ports... it will do a even better hairtrick lol Yea i can imagine even with the extra weight that the car can still fly, bet the brakes were a pain the first time after the subs went in!! I know they were in my car, had an Integra with H22, with 2 12" SI Mags and Hifonics amp, all fiberglassed in hatch area, first time i installed everything and went cruising around, the brakes felt like they went out on me!!! Well any ways back to original topic!! As for measuring the space, if you are planning on going around all the nooks and crannies, you are going to need to dissect each section into its own portion. Well take alot of time and some pretty good math, but it is one of the best methods(that i am aware of) to measure everything. If you were to just stay inside the struts though you should be able to make a good rectangle area out of that and probably have enough space. But there will be no set in stone solution for your problem, it may require a rebuild or 2 if the first ones dont pan out to exactly what you want. So just be aware of that. My opinion would be the try and keep the box inside the struts and just put a sealing wall at the front baffle to reduce the cabin space and reduce the need for all the extra measuring, but that is just me, and what i would most likely do. Best of luck man, would love to see if once finished!! Keep me updated, please. haha ya the brakes felt the same with me... took me a lil while to get used to... definetly can tell the car has more weight to... takes more gas to get up a hill now... and with having 8:1 compression its soooo slow til the turbo kicks in lol...nice on having a h22 in a intergra... i was thinking about putting a h22 in my hatch... but after all the money and time it would of taken i just decided to rebuild my motor and turbo it... way more hp in the end lol... and ya that does sound like the best solution to keep it in between the struts... ill measure and see what how much room i have to play with... ill definetly keep you updated thanks for the help i was thinking if i cant build a good wall with 2 18s i wanna switch to 4 12s or 4 15s... but i just love saying i have 18s in my car lol... IA makes 21" drivers. Oh shit!

REBUILD MONEY! Bought my kids a bounce house and I keep it in the house! Buss bar in progress It all comes out Take that box! Epic Box design thanks JAY-C76 Batts and buss bars but they will be switched to copper waiting on the place to get the flat stock in.

i didnt -1 anything tough guy........ I mean the one comment ya bro but to me theres a difference between sarcasm and disrespect and you came back talking smack like it has anything to do with you...... pics will be up but I own and operate two companies. one which I customize cars. Ill have some pics up for you btw have you checked out your build log I believe the first five pages or so are chatting. this is a rebuild so what you want me posting pics of a van you already seen? thats a waste of space hey wait you and that have something in common a waste of space I can dish as well as receive but throw a smiley in there once in a while bro and dont come at me about what I drive. I did it for the simple fact I have kids and want to have a toy but if I need to drive them somewhere with my wife being gone in hers. Thanks for the confidence IAK!

seems to me that you guys are sharing the HATORADE! I drive a SS camaro and a new silverado. YOU ride the short bus. im not a hater i just think this thread is a little retarded and shouldnt be in the build log section. Man so much for being IAK family huh bro a little harsh.............

seems to me that you guys are sharing the HATORADE!

This will be one that takes a little while as it is getting the whole 9 yards..... Custom bench seat for the front with a media console in the center that will house the playstation 3 with custom charging station for the controller. with radio for volume controls in the center of the bench. The dash will consist of 15" LED tv with 4 2.5" speakers for center channel. A-pillar will have 2-4 soft dome tweeters. The Front doors will consist of 8 8" for midbass and possibly 4 2.5" for tweets....thats per door. Behind the front bench seat will be a 32" tv for the rear passengers. The backseat will be an L shaped sectional custom built to match the front interior. The bottom of the sectional will be plexi so that the Juicebox batteries are able to be viewed. Contemplating if I want to do the plexi floor and mount the amp on the floor or place it mounted into the bench seat still in the air on that. interior amps will be hidden behind the sectional. The roof will be fiberglassed and painted the piano black to give it that sexy shine. The substage will be 2 18" zcons powered by the stetsom 14k at 2 ohms. I was going to run 4 but I love the way the 2 sound and I already have them so why not just dump the money into the appearance aspect. But I will be rebuilding the box one last time and it will be made of birch and have resin 45 degree angles. The Exterior will be getting the matching piano black paint job as to match interior. Replacing the windshield and tinting it 20%. I will have pics and videos the whole time but with 913 Customs taking off faster than expected I will have to take my time with my baby......... Bare with me fellas!

ya lol I was gunna have you do something sweet for the Tear down lol

really cause thats where YOU are gunna go.... :roflmao: :roflmao:

hell ya that sounds cool... i wish missouri had more competitions and meetings and stuff like that but i cant find anything... but ya if you wanna try to get something going let me know, im definetly in

lol thanks bro... ya im in love with it so far... cant wait to get a hair trick going i live about a hour east of KC in a small town called knob noster lol

Ram designs on here is one option. I as well as many others on here can help you through the process. sounds good ill look into ram designs and see what i think..

hmm.. if i can get a good design im sure i could make it myself. just gotta find someone the designs boxes....

im thinking the same thing... i was thinking about getting these boxes now... but i doubt it would make a difference... opinions ?? http://www.ebay.com/itm/ATREND-RE-AUDIO-XXX18D2-18-VENTED-SUB-ENCLOSURE-BOX-/390306301765?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item5ae0118745

Tell me about it bro! Im better off replacing the engine while im in there lol!

I'll give him my excessive amperage alternator if he can beat my old score of 148 @ 25Hz Ok I will accept the challenge lol

Stay Tuned in There will be lots of CUSTOM for sure I PROMISE! Hidden batteries.... Hardwood floors! LOTS OF GOODIES and the wife gave me my check book and said dont be CHEAP this time!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :morepower1: :morepower1: :morepower1: :morepower1: :morepower1: :morepower1: :morepower1:

Hello fellow brothers.....Just wanted to drop some love and say thank you to CHICAGO and CHOP for allowing me to be apart of the Family! I am here to help and learn along the way.....Do not hesitate to call on me DAY or NIGHT you will have my INFO soon!

Right of the bat I can tell you this will take a while since its been going on for a while. The wife already said no so now it has to happen. The couch is ready and the fridge is full. Here is a teaser pic. More to follow soon. Belly of the beast

lookin good

i downloaded that.. but thats pretty far advanced and i dont see a box builder on it... should i download the pro?

huh, if you dont know what your talking about please dont post on my thread... anyways traded the 10k plus cash for a 14k2d .... very excited still gotta get a bunch more batteries and a lot more wire before i can run it though lol

I thought he was banned?

yep they will be walled

should get my stetsom 10k from steve very shortly i plan on building a wall and switching to 4 12s probably.

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nice. not to far.. what kind of system do you have ?? haha thanks bro... ya the more i think about it the more i wanna do a wall.. just gotta get a good design

Why ? their AA 7inch mids kick ass ! some of the best I've ever used .... I'd expect the N-sg to come out soon Have a link? Didnt know about them

Thanks, missed that My Threads are legit most of the time Yo!

ya your dumb... look how your posts are getting negative rep LOL

What is the big secret for next week?

alright finally got some pics and a vid of my car... i know the cars dirty lol i just installed the alternator so i havent had time to clean the grease off yet interior. engine pics from when my bumpers were black... engine still looks the same today. so ya i ordered a fully loaded fi btl 18" i ordered another sub exactly the same from Fi ... and got this... the whole sub was pretty much different...i know they look alike but the cone was a different texture and so was the rubber surround... Fi told me they are making a switch from using parts from overseas to getting them made in america... some pics of them together... installing the alternator wires Mechman 220a Alternator.. had to make a custom bracket for it... but its worth it lol XS Power d3100 battery hooked up Hifonics BRZ2400.1 Amps installed.... underneath the amps i screwed 2x4s into the body and then covered it with the carpet and mounted the amps to the wood... pretty damn sturdy lol. grounds for the amp... the car already had places for bolts so it worked out perfect for the grounds.. bracket i made to hold up the boxes... heres the subs mounted in the car... right behind the driver and passanger seat... looking back from the rear view mirror. and ofcourse got to have a flexx video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pJiRcInOyI8