ford302redneck

What grade of aluminum did you use Troy?

P Chamfer and that's it.( This just helps keep back pressure from the solid pole from building up behind the dustcap and possibly blowing it off.) That's the bare minimal required option. You shouldn't need any options for keeping the sub within its power limits in a low tuned ported enclosure. If you want, I'll explain each option and why they don't fit for your needs. If your planning more than 1000RMS, cooling option wouldn't be a terrible idea.

He's a fucking MOD?! You got to be kidding me? Who the fuck did he give a blowjob to on severial ocassions(I'm sure one wasn't enough) to be that? He spreads so much bullshit as fact, and swear he is correct. He'll ban me if I go on caco.org then. And if I won't allow somebody to post straight bullshit, something is wrong. I mean I'm not the smartest, but I can prove him wrong most of the time. He's soo bias to DD yet supposely a die hard SQueer. And he's the one that said capitators was only good for SQ because of evening out the current flow. Swear you could hear the difference having a cap or not. Now I have no idea about that, but sounds like bullshit. Hearing current? Really? The way current flows can have different sounds?! Sorry Aaron, I didn't see your post before I replied. I'm sure the OP doesn't mind, as this thread is basically just making fun of idiots. I'm ready for the guy on SMD to reply though.

Well of course there are But sometimes a few over there can be a little over the top. **coughs** Wenn or Xander or what ever he goes by **coughs** Are you talking about Wenn on SMD? If so that guy is something else I must say.

I'm almost thinking this guy doesn't understand fully what he is saying. Or what understand the program he is using. As I didn't see where you posted any box specs of your enclosure. So how did he model info you didn't provide? And also he said that -3dB is not audible, so .3 dBs differences of -2.7dBs shouldn't be audible either. But I assume you can hear your setup now? I like how he has a program that can magically gives out the SPL by just giving T/S specs and boxes specs, and if he added the power you have also. I think he could make a good living by offering people advise on which setup will be loudest before people spend all that time testing, and wasting money on products.

Now your almost giving a definition on how to achieve SQ. The meaning of SQ is quiet simple. I couldn't word it correctly myself but this will do. "Sound quality can be defined as the degree of accuracy with which a device records or emits the original sound waves."

that's your current status......and validates my point exactly. Mine too. If OP's would spend a little time trying to make a thread useful then there would be no troubles, but that you can easily see if you've truly searched. This forum is about helping people not only with their question but understanding why so that they grow as a person. That requires effort on their part. EXACTLY. Perfect definition. Pointing one person's post out and giving them the correct info is way better than a bunch of misguided people with wrong info posting. 1 vs 1000. Which is better? Its better not to have bullshit from the start, then trying to convince a big group of people they aren't correct. And if you don't see it that way, maybe this forum isn't for you. SSA has always been known as more of a technical audio forum than the rest. So if you want a bunch o people giving out wrong info and not allowing people to correct others, SMD is for you. That definition is how SQ is judged not actually what SQ means.

The people will a "good amount" of power can stay above 14 volts because usually they have the proper electrical to back up the power they have. Not everyone skimps and runs the maximum their electrical can handle. CEA was suppose to cut out the bullshit ratings companies pull out their ass for MAX power. To give a equal testing of each product, to insure the company ratings was true or not. That's the idea anyways. I suppose the concept is a marketing strategy none the less.

Definitely when they are very similar.

Dude, I have a 01 all Black crew cab F-250. Also sweet looking Chevy(even though I'm not a Chevy fan). Yours looks good. Do you have anymore pictures of it? If you want to checkout my F-250, youtube.com/ford302redneck should get you there. I'm on a phone and cannot link because it will send mobile youtube version. I should have more pics and videos of mine in the next few days hopefully, if your interested.

Videos will happen. Hopefully it will launch my new youtube channel. And I see a little edit action, to bad I didn't see the original.

Go buy a few then. Let us know how they are IF you really want to know, I will have acess to 4 18 Zcons in about 12 hours, from the time I post this, if everything goes correctly in shipping.... So, what's your point? I will give a review sometime in the next week or so, and I'm sure the actually owner of the subs will too. Plus I assume videos of them in action will also be up in the same time frame of the review. And Aaron, I sort of said the same thing as you. But I'm sure people liked hearing it come from the company. SSA FTW.

What? How did they come to that conclusion? Link to original thread?

I'm loving the pricing on the 2k though. Those willllllll sellll like crazy. Really when the two it is compared to, cough cough, cost 89 more dollars and almost double. The rest of the prices aren't bad either. Didn't they say a new 4 channel was coming also? Any news on it?

Ok, I see a lot of wrong info in this thread so, from what I see/know I will correct what I can. First off, Crescendo is a direct company. No dealer, which means no middle man making money off the product. So the prices posted is what dealer price would be or close. Its not the build quality isn't as good, but if you knew dealer prices you would understand. This is just Crescendos marketing strategoy. So take that into consideration. Next, I would like to address, these new amps LOOK very similar to another company mention in this thread. I'm almost sure they are in fact the same buildhouse and SAME board. But I haven't took the time to compare a 100%. I'm just pretty damn sure. Take the amp rating, 2k,3.5k, and 5.5k, then find out who amps amps close to those ratings and you will figure it out. And they are not a vendor here. Finally, the Crescendo 100.4 and 3000d was in fact the same amp as Sundown 3000d, 100.4c. As well RD 3250v1 and many others. That board has beeeeeeen arouuuuund. And it wasn't a cheap knockoff, like I said, these are DIRECT pricing. You don't have a middle man with bills to pay selling these amps. Example, Fi is direct, but nobody doubts their quality because of the prices. Same should apply here. You just can't compare dealer based companies prices to direct.

Racing in mud? Lol. But on the street, a AWD with street tires launching vs a RWD with street tires. Both similar power, racing in a 1/4 mile. I would say AWD would benefit. As usually 60fooT usually determines the race. Well, usually a car is repeatable after 60ft. So 3 tenth off 60 times will equal 3 plus tenth on the other end.

Also, I just want to make clear. Just because Scott(Fi and ect) OEMs for SSA does not mean they are the same as the sub his companies sells. If they was the same but cost less, why in the hell would SSA even bother investing money to sell their own brand of drivers? I mean think about it. SSA found a niche that currently didn't have many other options. A Sound Quality first but still retain higher power handling and be USA made. Not saying other companies drivers can't sound good, but most in the high power handling range, SQ isn't the first priory. As far as price, its right on point IMO. Mark or Aaron, if either have a problem with anything I posted, feel free to edit.

Easy conclusion. We know you have reading comprehension issues, now we know you can't ask a question right either. Since we are asking ridiculous questions, here's one for you. Which vehicle is faster? A) 500hp, red, rwd B) 300hp, blue, fwd C) 400hp, black, awd And why? I'll play. First, Faster at what? Your example works nicely.

I wasn't quiet talking about install dependent. I guess I should of stated that. I'm talking as a whole.

I have a question. It might be stupid, but I'm sure I'm not the only one thinking this. Ok, so I have a graph that's a 100% in the desired bandwidth of the driver in question. Is it still possible for the driver not being able to sound good? And visa versa, one that doesn't have a perfect flat response, can it sound perfect? I understand the subjective part of reviews, and how one can't just relay on it. *Disclaimer, I don't have a lot of knowledge in this area, so I'm just trying to understand.

Holy Hell. Price drop?! Damn why did you have to do that?! As I don't have the extra money at the moment but don't want to miss the deal.

You are trolling for something, Do you need a hug little guy? i sure do simply put i think it will be hard for fi to make a bad sub and a quiet one at that... he dont need a hug he is a HUGGER.... Of NUTS! I mean seriously bro your not allowed to comment in regards to anything until you have had both subs in the same vehicle with the box built to specs per specific sub. I know I had my BTL and it was in the recommended enclosure and it was loud dont get me wrong and sounded GREAT! then I got my ZCON and as quoted from the movie ALADDIN " A WHOLE NEWWWWWW WORRRRRLLLLDDDDD" To have the OUTPUT and SQ in the same subwoofer is BEYOND belief! So do me a favor boss and although im sure you are holding on with one hell of a grip get off Fi NUTS! You dont even know the half of the story! Fi makes your xcon, im sure it sounded great look at my youtube, ive owned both also... so you can throw your credibility out of the way with that now. i do not currently even own a Fi HENCE THE DD AND DC SIGNATURE so if anyones nuts im huggin besides "Rusty and Jassa" then you my friend started an argument that didnt even exist I can't figure out why you even post? A good bit of the posts I see you make doesnt do anybody any good including yourself. You can't expect people not to talk about SSA subs in a SSA thread on the SSA forum. Its ok for you to have own opinion, but no need to cut down everybodies because yours isn't the same. And bringing up SSA is made by Scott isn't nothing new. Your not the only one who knows this. So stop pretending your special because you know.

It makes sense to not care how a speaker sounds in actuality rather than how the paper says it sounds. What a tool. :-/ What one person thinks sounds good, may NOT be what another person thinks sounds good. So what good would it do Impious to know how someone else thinks it sounds. I agree to the bold. I could tell somebody these are the best sound drivers in the world. But that wouldn't matter much. I'm not saying I go by T/S specs and response graph, but plenty do. I think we already come to the conclusion "real world" results don't justify anything on this site. Hard data and facts only. Which I'm not disagreeing with. Real world has to many variables and bias opinions to even do justice.

I was just saying. CDs is getting on the endangered list though. I still use CD only because I have a older headunit. Hopefully going to upgrade shortly. I'm tired of getting a tiny scratch on my CD and having to burn a new one everytime I turn around. And my CD player is sooo picky, usually takes 3 or 4 burns to get one it likes.(I've tried multiple burners still same problem.)

I'm not quiet sure Crossfire had some of the greatest. Sure it wasn't bad by no means, but greatest, meh, I never seen it. I do like Crossfire, alway have. My local dealer when I first got into audio, carried Crossfire. Second setup I ever heard was Crossfire subs and amps. And was damn loud. Was actually my first really loud setup I heard. I actually owned a few Crossfires. 15inch white basket DB. One of my favorite subs, ran it in a sealed box off 150rms, sounded quiet amazing to me as a nooob. I also ran a 12 DB3 for a few months, again, decent entryish level sub. But greatest? The old XT(2) was good for what they was, but nothing ground breaking or insanely loud. I did like the Original BMFs. I've heard countless setups with them and always thought good things about em. But this is just my opinion. Not disagreeing exactly. See for me Crossfire fell out about 8 years ago. Due to the lack of dealers in my area and alot of friends loving cheap shit they didn't have 'good' gear and usually had craptastic installs. Crossfire was the 2nd seriously loud sysytem I head around 9 years ago. Before that it was always Walmart or sears shit or Pioneer. Crossfire was my holy grail beacuse it did knock the wind out of me, it did knock my socks off. Now its just another 'has been' to me. I know while I had my pair of BMF's I loved em. J That's about when I'm talking about. Back in 02-04. After that we lost our dealer