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smartcar cant even hold the drivers weight, haha. crash test scores go UP when someone is in it to help brace all sides of the vehicle while driving.

If its the best you've ever heard and you built it, paid for it, and set it up? That's a Damn good feeling. I don't see how ppl can have any aversion to that.

Here's an example: I ran a Sundown 125.2 on some Eminence Alpha 6a midrange drivers, played well and got warm when abused. I ran the same exact setup on an MB Quart 2150 I believe it was the model number (basically the amps had around the same specs power wise). In my car and my application both played well and sounded the exact same but my MB Quart got hotter than the Sundown far more hotter, all settings set the same (used DMM to set up). I was abusing full tilt everywhere I went all day even on long drives to neighboring cities. The only facts I have to justify why I should spend the extra $100 on my Sundown is because of where I live (Texas, hot climates) and my listening habits. If I played the amp barely and didnt go full tilt all day then the MB Quart would do fine in an average user's setup. So should I recommend the Sundown to the average user because he doesnt play his music like me or doesnt have the same listening habits, no but if price werent a factor I would. Overall it is too many factors to throw into play when doing a this vs that thread without hands on testing.

Isnt this the point of a forum, so members can share their experience, ask questions and people can help decide on answers based on what the poster needs. Not trying being a dueche bag or anything.

For audio purposes a beetle is a MUCH better SQ car than get loud car. That dash goes on for miles. Get a pink one.

First thing I would do is decide on a different car. That is a girls car.

Ok I apologize I didn't know it was a fuckin crime get that dildo out of your ass. Money is a factor which is why I was asking if that hifonics amp is as good as the sundown I was asking if anyone had experience with both amps. But thanks skizzy I think I will buy the hifonics Brutus however they don't have a 1500wrms closet is 1007wrms which should be fine? I would love to go with sundown all the way but money is very tight for me and this system will last me a year because next year I'm leaving for the army.