strapping ? and electrical ?

[Lucky 76 5]

so i was thinking of 2 saz-3000d as well as the 100.4... this is for daily ... if i have it strapped for 1 ohm (each amp at .5 ohm) and i tune it with an oscilloscope is this still a bad idea? ... wouldnt the nominal resisitance rise up to over 1 ohm anyway so it would be safe? ... what do you recommend as far as total aH (jake i forgot what you said lol) and how many strands of 1/0 will suffice to the rear (approx 15 ft from front to back battery bank)?

[sundownz 197]

All of this talk about "with rise" for a daily system is BS... by the way. Half ohm nominal is half ohm nominal.

Little more information about that :

http://www.audiograph.se/subpages/technical/whatmakesagoodamplifier.htm

"This proves to be very important, since a loudspeaker with a nominal impedance of 4 ohms will sometimes have an actual impedance of 1 ohm or less."

It can be LESS than nominal on music.

[Lucky 76 5]

All of this talk about "with rise" for a daily system is BS... by the way. Half ohm nominal is half ohm nominal.

Little more information about that :

http://www.audiograph.se/subpages/technical/whatmakesagoodamplifier.htm

"This proves to be very important, since a loudspeaker with a nominal impedance of 4 ohms will sometimes have an actual impedance of 1 ohm or less."

It can be LESS than nominal on music.

i see ... so it would not be a good idea to run these amps at .5 ohm then because the resistance could also go lower than that ... so i should either go 2 saz-3500 at 1 ohm or keep the saz-3000 at 1 ohm each ... i read on your website that the saz3500 is only doing 6kw strapped ... is this correct or is there a typographical error ... also what do you recommend for wire and batteries jake?

[sundownz 197]

The new product pages are not entirely up to date on the 3500D and 2000D... working on that... should say 7000 strapped.

For a real DAILY system the increased strain of 1/2 ohm is much more than most internet "experts" will lead you to believe... people still do it and may or may not break their amps, but it is a MUCH higher strain than 1 ohm.

[Lucky 76 5]

alright so if i were to put 4 xcon 18s in my suv which of the 2 would you pick to power them? ... what do you recommend my aH rating look like ... will 2 runs of 1/0 be plenty to the battery bank?

Edited August 10, 2009 by Lucky 76

[sundownz 197]

Or perhaps use an SAZ-2000D per woofer at 1 ohm each ?

I suggest a starting battery + XS Power D3100 per 2-3kw of power... and more than that if you run them at 1/2 ohm.

[Lucky 76 5]

Or perhaps use an SAZ-2000D per woofer at 1 ohm each ?

I suggest a starting battery + XS Power D3100 per 2-3kw of power... and more than that if you run them at 1/2 ohm.

well u said that 1/2 is a bad idea so im not gonna run that ... i didnt plan on spending more than 1500 on amps so i think 4 saz-2000s is out of the ? lol ... unless you can work out some type of deal with me

[sundownz 197]

Two 3500s on pre-order is only a little over that at 1700 total.

You could strap at 2 ohms and get 1 ohm per amp.

I'd get 3 or 4 XS Power D3100s.

[Lucky 76 5]

Two 3500s on pre-order is only a little over that at 1700 total.

You could strap at 2 ohms and get 1 ohm per amp.

I'd get 3 or 4 XS Power D3100s.

so would 2 runs of 1/0 be enough ... i am going refurbrished n e way ... do you think u would be able to get me 4 2000s refurbed at 375 each?

[sundownz 197]

There are zero refurbished 2000s available.

Two runs of 1/0 from the front is fine.

[jcarter1885 995]

Two 3500s on pre-order is only a little over that at 1700 total.

You could strap at 2 ohms and get 1 ohm per amp.

I'd get 3 or 4 XS Power D3100s.

so would 2 runs of 1/0 be enough ... i am going refurbrished n e way ... do you think u would be able to get me 4 2000s refurbed at 375 each?

just buy you a SAZ-4500D and call it a day.

[Lucky 76 5]

Two 3500s on pre-order is only a little over that at 1700 total.

You could strap at 2 ohms and get 1 ohm per amp.

I'd get 3 or 4 XS Power D3100s.

so would 2 runs of 1/0 be enough ... i am going refurbrished n e way ... do you think u would be able to get me 4 2000s refurbed at 375 each?

just buy you a SAZ-4500D and call it a day.

why when i can get more output for the same price and i wouldnt have to wait until end of october

[Lucky 76 5]

if i were to wait until u received 4 2000s would u be able to give them to me for that price?

[Lucky 76 5]

wouldnt 4 of the 1500s be a good choice? ... i heard they are incredibly underrated ... would they put out more than 2 of the saz-3500d strapped?

[jcarter1885 995]

if i were to wait until u received 4 2000s would u be able to give them to me for that price?

Im doubting anyone will kill their SAZ-2000D anytime soon as they have only been out for at least a month, refurbs wont be available for some time (which maybe longer than october to at least get one, you might get lucky and find one by October). Well than get 2 SAZ-3500D's and up your budget for them since your a few hundred short (your just making this harder on yourself, whatever you throw at those XCONS they will perform excellent, no need to throw more than their rms at them.

[Lucky 76 5]

i can get 4 of the 1500s for 100 cheaper if i wait ... my question is will they put out around the same power if i were to get 2 of the 3500s

[sundownz 197]

Four 1500s is similar in power to two 3500s.

[Lucky 76 5]

Four 1500s is similar in power to two 3500s.

which one would you do then if it were up to you jake? i have 4 subwoofers so would it be better to power each one separately?

[sundownz 197]

Two 3500s would be easier.

[Lucky 76 5]

Two 3500s would be easier.

alright thanks