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Sorry. I do not sugar coat things. I call the par for the course for precisely how it is. Anybody can man a glue bottle. Understanding the why's, how's, and the ins/outs of how these things actually work and the science behind them is a completely different ballpark. That's the great thing about the United States..anybody can start a company or a business. Just because you own an engineering firm does not mean that you know how to engineer your way out of a wet paper bag. The harsh reality is ultimately figuring out how to snow the consumer into believing they know what they are doing and spread idiocracy throughout the ranks of the internet and get their friends to purchase products/services from the engineering firm. You can have absolutely no idea what you are doing, polish it a little, throw some fancy words out there and consumers will believe you. When in all reality the product/service available...it is at par or below par for the course at the very best. Others who have owned engineering firms for years and have been doing engineering work for an extensive amount of time simply laugh at the engineer selling chicken shit sandwiches claiming it is chicken salad. (Look at the shake-weight)..people buy those things, shake them for 10 minutes, and never touch them again. But..it is viral and ludicrous enough for South Park to make an episode about it, and making it a hilarious spoof as well. It is a comical relief as far as working out and being healthy and leading a healthy lifestyle. Anybody in the fitness industry knows damn good and well it is a joke. You do not get a shake weight and then compete in the Mr. Olympia contest...nor do you go ride a bike and kick Lance Armstrong's ass either. But according to the commercials that are on TV it is going to get you ripped and toned. If you do not agree with it, my apologies. I don't believe in telling half truths and whole lies to get somebody to buy something from me. I believe in giving them a fair shake and a good deal to begin with on something that we truly machine and build in house, without ripping them off.

Old Shop: alright... so here's the new shop being moved into. Still a mess but we're getting there! We should be good for hopefully... a year or more haha.

It doesnt exist? well heres a link of 20 motors on a flat bench now to actually answer the question you have to remember they are not really that comparible, btl is now neo, and the tsns is an 86lb woofer. the tsns uses a slightly larger spider, i have no idea about the btl's but im sure the better comparison would be the tsns and the btl n3. i wish i had pics to upload this tsns so everyone could see, but being new to this forum i am not sure. why insult a man's company? he builds good subs, just because they are different doesnt mean they suck? Been a field of lies for 4-5 years and taking customers money and never giving them anything for it. I would not take anybody's money knowing good and well what was really going on and lying about my buildings, machine shops, and build facilities in 2 other states that I think I have.. He finally showed up with something..AFTER I said that...what 4 years later? They aren't different...he does not machine anything himself, he does not have his own machine shop, I'd surely have doubts if they even have a magnetizer, much less could machine and build a motor from raw steel.

Here's a quick Video I took the other day just so you guys can kinda see a little bit at least of how it is. I didn't have time to do a very good vid. I didn't even get out of my car or pop the trunk or show roof flex or anything fun, but I wanted to at least have something up. Here's the link, It should be up any min.

MECA for burps or music class? More motor strength does not equal more output in music classes. You start to reduce your peak and get a really large saddle shaped response curve for most "normal" sized enclosures. Im sure the N3 will hold its own with the other standard SPL subs out there. As for the extreme class subs (which there truly only is one other extreme class sub out there) the NSG will work for that application. The issue is this... there simply is no magic bullet sub that makes you louder for every application. While we can tailor things suspension and coil wise within a platform, it still does not give us full coverage over every situation. This does not make a sub inferior to anything else... just like a Ferrari isnt crap compared to a Peterbuilt... just that Id rather haul 40' containers with a big rig than weld a 5th wheel to a sports car. But have fun with the big rig on the track There are pics of the N3 out as well. Ill have to repost them, but they were actually the first Neo pics we posted about 4 months ago when we started the project to see if people would be interested in something that looked as odd as it does. Only changes are that the back plates are not as sculpted to reduce machine time and cost. Thanks, Scott

What is big hydrolics?

I couldn't get the damn grills to stay on so I'll need to do some work on those