Multi sub setup

[shizzzon 461]

I've been reading that if i want loud for music, i need to go with as much cone area and power as i can.

My limited power available is only 4,400w.

To keep costs down, i've been looking at some subs at sonicelectronix and i see 2 that seem pretty interesting to me.

They are all 12s.

Clif Designs CDNUC12 Clif Designs

Absolute VI 2000.4 Absolute

That Absolute is the D6 version because they have no current info on the D4.

I was also lookin at AQs SD2.5s but these subs are cheaper.

The reason why i posted this thread is because i'm being told that running 4 12s for daily driving, because of more cone area and more heat dissipation, is gonna be a better, louder choice that running my 2 AQ HD315s.

I have never done multi sub setup so i have no experience in the difference.

[RidnClean 0]

what "cost" are you tryin to stay under?

yes 4 12s is more cone area, and less heat etc etc.

but can be just as loud or same, if not done right.

all install dependant

[shizzzon 461]

the cost not to actually spend any money, lol.

What i mean is i have 4 Audioque subs. 2 12s and 2 15s all in the original HD3 and new HDC3 line.

The money i get from selling these would go towards new subs, that's it!

I'm only expecting to spend a $200-400 on building the box so this project isn't that expensive.

Weight is an issue. The subs i choose, 4 12s cannot weigh more than 24lbs a piece. That's another reason why i chose those 2.

It's been narrowed down to those and to tell u the truth, I've never heard of clif designs but that sub looks pretty nice for the money.

[RidnClean 0]

hmm that is tough.

24lbs per sub, doesnt leave much to decide

[shizzzon 461]

it's a matter of design talk rather than equipment talk.

am i to expect a noticeable difference of 4 12s over 2 15s?

If not, i'll just stick to the 15s..

[RidnClean 0]

well this is the formula for cone area between the 2.

Four 12" = 452.39

Two 15" = 353.43

depending on right power/box design, you should notice a difference, but might not be major.

thought about using birch to keep weight down also?

[shizzzon 461]

yea, that's already been measured.

98lbs for birch

122lbs for mdf.

I'm going birch.

Here is the weight in my car for a 800lbs limit-

Sound Deadening - 78lbs

Batts - 158lbs

Amps - 44lbs

Subs - ~96lbs

Box- 98lbs

Wire and bracing - 30lbs

Estimated weight - 502lbs

That's really too much weight already but u see the problem

[RidnClean 0]

that poor TC

[christobear 0]

invest in a stiffer suspension! haha

you know you're addicted to car audio when you max out the weight capacity of your car with only audio equipment

imo, i would just stick with the 15's

you're going to sell 2 great quality, SPL oriented subs (that im assuming for the most part you like)

to buy 4 subs you've never heard, never heard of, and have no one to vouch for their quality, and then hope they will be louder than your current setup....

[rumproast789 0]

invest in a stiffer suspension! haha

you know you're addicted to car audio when you max out the weight capacity of your car with only audio equipment

imo, i would just stick with the 15's

you're going to sell 2 great quality, SPL oriented subs (that im assuming for the most part you like)

to buy 4 subs you've never heard, never heard of, and have no one to vouch for their quality, and then hope they will be louder than your current setup....

qft

[christobear 0]

does that mean quit f@#$ing talking?

cause im just giving my opinion, you dont have to be an ass if you disagree

[burton907 0]

does that mean quit f@#$ing talking?

cause im just giving my opinion, you dont have to be an ass if you disagree

hahahaha

no it means quoted for truth.

in other words he agrees

[christobear 0]

hahhahaha, oooohhh

k

sorry. i guess that makes me the ass

[lithium 358]

u can get some type Rs off ebay for 100each...