Posted June 12, 201213 yr I have a 1989 chevy caprice i want to build a box in the trunk any ideas of what type of box also i would like to get at least 4 xs batterys any ideas on group size or type xp series or D. (Will get more batterys if needed) 4 12" ssa zcon d22 CRESCENDO BC5500D220AMP ALTENATOR
June 12, 201213 yr Admin Welcome to SSA. I would suggest taking some measurements first, and that will be at least some info for people to be able to use to help with box suggestions.
June 12, 201213 yr Author xWelcome to SSA. I would suggest taking some measurements first, and that will be at least some info for people to be able to use to help with box suggestions.Maximum space 16"h x 62"L x 23" w Should i be running dual 2 or dual 1 with a bc5500d Edited June 12, 201213 yr by WARFARE INC.
June 13, 201213 yr Author I would suggest d24 ssa zcon dual 2 how should i wire it to 2 crescendo bc5500
June 13, 201213 yr Popular Post You sure you're up for such a big setup not knowing how to wire your subs? Edited June 13, 201213 yr by phi
June 13, 201213 yr You sure you're up for such a big setup not knowing how to wire your subs?This x2. That's awfully expensive equipment to burn up if you're new to Car Audio.You're going to need WAY more batteries or another alt because those 5500's will eat that 220 up like it's nothing. Edited June 13, 201213 yr by An-i-no
June 13, 201213 yr You're better off running 4 xcon d4 12's , 220a alt, 4 xs (d3100) batts, and 1 bc5500.
June 13, 201213 yr You're better off running 4 xcon d4 12's , 220a alt, 4 xs (d3100) batts, and 1 bc5500.Even though that's still a little big, I'd rather see this as well.
June 13, 201213 yr Four ZCON's in that space with proper bracing and enough port area isn't going to happen. Or shall I rephrase that, isn't a good idea.
June 13, 201213 yr you have to think about what the car uses just by itself also. with a 1100cca batt under the hood, big 3 done and a 220A alt i bet you still get your headlights to blink with a 2K amp. that is alot of expensive equipment to burn up, take it a step at a time. start with a 2K amp and that 220A alt with a pair of subs on it and work your way up from there when you gain the experience.
June 13, 201213 yr Author I started with 4 kicker l7 dual 4 on 2 quantum audio 4000 2optimas yellow top I was ready to upgrade im use to the l7when buying the subs i was told to run the amps at a half ohm to get more power that didnt seem right it seems unsafe i wanted d1 but i was givin bad adviceIf someone from ssaudio could contact me it would help out like every one is saying that is a lot of money to burn up So some one please save me from giving my self more problems i have not gotten the amps yet any open to better idea if ssaudio allows me to fix this sub prob my buget is $4000 to get this all right
June 13, 201213 yr Admin You're better off running 4 xcon d4 12's , 220a alt, 4 xs (d3100) batts, and 1 bc5500.There are no Dual 4 ohm Xcon's.
June 13, 201213 yr Admin Popular Post I started with 4 kicker l7 dual 4 on 2 quantum audio 40002optimas yellow topI was ready to upgrade im use to the l7when buying the subs i was told to run the amps at a half ohm to get more power that didnt seem right it seems unsafe i wanted d1 but i was givin bad adviceIf someone from ssaudio could contact me it would help out like every one is saying that is a lot of money to burn upSo some one please save me from giving my self more problems i have not gotten the amps yet any open to better idea if ssaudio allows me to fix this sub prob my buget is $4000 to get this all rightI replied to your email first thing this morning. For a quad of Zcon's on a pair of 5500's, to get the amplifiers to see a 1 ohm load, you are going to want to order dual 1 ohm voice coils. I suggest listening to what a few have said, at least in terms of space. Just because you had 4 L7's, that does not mean they had the proper air space. We have a few people with 5500's and 4 Zcon's, and they are all seasoned competitors with large battery banks, huge alternators (if not more then one), voltage regulators and are running walls for the Zcon's. There is no issue on ordering 4 Zcon 12D1's and a pair of Crescendo 5500's, that has some extremely high potential, BUT, if they are not given the proper air-space and supplied with sufficient current, it will be a waste of money. These are massive amplifiers that can easily put out ratted and then some, but they need huge amounts of current to do so. It would be like hiring Magnus VerMagnusson as your body guard, but only allowing him to eat two cups of rice a day and having one hand tied behind his back.
June 13, 201213 yr Do you plan on doing it all yourself or is someone (shop) going to do it for you?Post a pic of your current system so we can get idea of what it looks like in your trunk, maybe we could help more after that...
June 13, 201213 yr That will be a a lot of bass. Is that a spl car you're building? I'm curious about the highs/mids???
June 13, 201213 yr Author I do have a mmats hd4000.1d should i get another or maby not get bc5500 and get 3500
June 14, 201213 yr I do have a mmats hd4000.1d should i get another or maby not get bc5500 and get 3500Don't second guess yourself...just take a step back and think hard about what you can realistically do. You have an upgraded alt and a few batteries right? It sounds like with a few more batts you could run one BC3500 just fine. Pair that with a couple of Xcons or Zcons (they don't HAVE to have 2000+ watts to be loud) and you could be tearing shit up. Then when you get the hang of having a bigger system and know from experience how everything works you can start to go from big to huge.It's like building a race car. You don't build a top notch 8 second car on your first try. Most people start with a street car that they added a few upgrades to and go from there. It's about experience.
June 14, 201213 yr I started with 4 kicker l7 dual 4 on 2 quantum audio 40002optimas yellow topI was ready to upgrade im use to the l7when buying the subs i was told to run the amps at a half ohm to get more power that didnt seem right it seems unsafe i wanted d1 but i was givin bad adviceIf someone from ssaudio could contact me it would help out like every one is saying that is a lot of money to burn upSo some one please save me from giving my self more problems i have not gotten the amps yet any open to better idea if ssaudio allows me to fix this sub prob my buget is $4000 to get this all right On a good day you might get 1000w out of them quantum 4000d they are way over rated amps
June 14, 201213 yr 2 mmats hd4000.1d or 2 bc3500.1d on 4 zcons your gonna need alot more electrical for that. you would need a couple 350-400A alts and a nice big upgraded battery under the hood and a couple in the back.
June 14, 201213 yr Author Yes i know i have 2 much and no im not getting xcons i already got zcons, i go all out when i do stuff, i have 6 batterys in total and im getting 2 more and 1 220a alt and a stock alt i also plug my car in to charge when not in use i do know my wireing options im just wondering wich one is best to go with when thers 2 amps involed is it better to run them separate or strapped together I have a mmats hd4000.1d should i get a nother or should i run 2 crescendo bc3500.1d since every body thinks 2 crescendo bc5500.1d is a bad idea I do want to push these subs to ther full potential while still being safe I want this to be my last time upgrading the sounds i dont want amps that would just make them hit hard i want to be obnoxious im buiding a costum box ported firing into the car sealed off you could fit 6 dead bodys in my trunk so i do have the air space for the subs im going all out i dont have a budget i am upgrading the electric and if im going to upgrade anything it will be from a car to a truck so i could wall it off. O fuck Eds lil bus
June 14, 201213 yr Author 2 mmats hd4000.1d or 2 bc3500.1d on 4 zcons your gonna need alot more electrical for that. you would need a couple 350-400A alts and a nice big upgraded battery under the hood and a couple in the back.So whats your opinion 2 mmats or 2 crescendo
June 14, 201213 yr Popular Post Yes i know i have 2 much and no im not getting xcons i already got zcons, i go all out when i do stuff, i have 6 batterys in total and im getting 2 more and 1 220a alt and a stock alt i also plug my car in to charge when not in use i do know my wireing options im just wondering wich one is best to go with when thers 2 amps involed is it better to run them separate or strapped together I have a mmats hd4000.1d should i get a nother or should i run 2 crescendo bc3500.1d since every body thinks 2 crescendo bc5500.1d is a bad ideaI do want to push these subs to ther full potential while still being safeI want this to be my last time upgrading the sounds i dont want amps that would just make them hit hard i want to be obnoxious im buiding a costum box ported firing into the car sealed off you could fit 6 dead bodys in my trunk so i do have the air space for the subs im going all out i dont have a budget i am upgrading the electric and if im going to upgrade anything it will be from a car to a truck so i could wall it off. O fuck Eds lil busLet's do some math...2 3500's will make 3875 each, so that's 7750 watts. At 14.4 volts you will need 538.2 amps to make that. At 13.5 (which is about what voltage your batteries take over) you will need 574.1 amps to make that.You have a 220 amp alt. Idk how many amps it takes to run your car but we'll say about 50. You have 170 amps left to run the system. You said you will have a stock alt as well, so lets say its 100 amps (this is just a guess). That's about 270 that you have to run the system.You have about 270 amps to use. You need about 550. Batteries will only help so much. This is why we are telling you to go smaller, you don't have the electrical to back up the amps.
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