3000D

[RemixPinoY 0]

Hey everyone I'm, having issues right now with my amp. I don't know too much about wiring and etc but my installer says that the amp I have isn't stable at 2ohm's and won't try 1ohm for fear of blowing the amp. It's stable at 4ohms but thats it, so right I have no idea what to do about it. Is the amp just bad? I ordered it almost two months ago but just installed it today and forgot to even see if I had a warranty when purchasing. Also the amp as it is now is pushing two AA havoc 12's in a sealed box and the amp is just rattling BAD. Like real real bad were it's so annoying and loud that everyone can hear it. So whats going on? Is this amp just bad in both it's stability and metal casing? Please I need help.... Thanks!

[loudcav 1]

well that amp will run at very low ohm loads you may try turning down the gains on the amp I know mine makes a buzzing type of noise when its at a straight clip

[RemixPinoY 0]

well that amp will run at very low ohm loads you may try turning down the gains on the amp I know mine makes a buzzing type of noise when its at a straight clip

But the amp goes into protection at 2ohms... And he has it at 1/2 way up on the gain with the subs at 4omhs. So is it just something he missed or is the amp just not cut out for 2omhs but can do 1omhs? That sounds wrong though if true. And as I read on forums it says to add dynamat in the amp and rubber washers and etc although I don't think it will fix the problem.

[loudcav 1]

what head unit are you useing? the amps seem to have very sensative in puts I run mine daily at 1/2 ohm and the amp sees a bit less than 9 volts on the RCA side and the gain is barely even touched

[fbi90909 0]

what head unit are you useing? the amps seem to have very sensative in puts I run mine daily at 1/2 ohm and the amp sees a bit less than 9 volts on the RCA side and the gain is barely even touched

9volts is kind of higher than most people can even supply to their amps.

mine only puts out 4v at max volume of my h.u but at the volume level setting i'm only getting around 2-3v and my gain is up around 3/4. every amp i've used has had to have the gains set pretty high.

and no my sub is not clipping out nor has my amp ever heated up really bad. just gets warm to the touch after beating the chit out of it.

as to the OT i don't know about your situation. are you able to test it on a different sub with inputs from a different head unit? for instance taking the amp out and trying it on a friends setup. it would help troubleshoot and pinpoint where the issue is coming from.

[buickid 0]

That amp should be stable down to at least 1 ohm. If its going into protection, check your electrical system. Would you mind listing any upgrades/modifications to your electrical? A 3kw amp is going to require a bit of beefing up. As far as the rattling goes, where and how is the amp mounted? As far as your gains go, they should be set by playing a roughly 50Hz sine, with the HU turned up just below IT's distortion, then turn the 3000D's gain up until it hits distortion, and back it off a teensy bit

[RemixPinoY 0]

I have this head unit http://www.nextag.com/pioneer-7900 Not that one exactly but the one lower than that, it didn't come with USB. Only feature I recall it did not come with. I'll have to ask my installer tomorrow what the volts are, but the amp is giving me enough power for my needs at 4ohms but I just want to find out if it's bad or not in case I ever go with more bass.

[buickid 0]

Man, if 4 ohms is enough power now, 1 ohm should, as I like to put it, "utterly slam".

[WildSebring 0]

That amp should be stable down to at least 1 ohm. If its going into protection, check your electrical system. Would you mind listing any upgrades/modifications to your electrical? A 3kw amp is going to require a bit of beefing up. As far as the rattling goes, where and how is the amp mounted? As far as your gains go, they should be set by playing a roughly 50Hz sine, with the HU turned up just below IT's distortion, then turn the 3000D's gain up until it hits distortion, and back it off a teensy bit

What Steve said.... What's your electrical upgrades , i.e. : Batts, Alts, Wiring?

The 3000 pullls a **itload of power. Are you supplying enough power to feed it enough juice?

[RemixPinoY 0]

That amp should be stable down to at least 1 ohm. If its going into protection, check your electrical system. Would you mind listing any upgrades/modifications to your electrical? A 3kw amp is going to require a bit of beefing up. As far as the rattling goes, where and how is the amp mounted? As far as your gains go, they should be set by playing a roughly 50Hz sine, with the HU turned up just below IT's distortion, then turn the 3000D's gain up until it hits distortion, and back it off a teensy bit

What Steve said.... What's your electrical upgrades , i.e. : Batts, Alts, Wiring?

The 3000 pullls a **itload of power. Are you supplying enough power to feed it enough juice?

Just one strong battery, wiring I believe is done. Everything except the alt. has been done. I do plan to upgrade but as now not yet, the lights are fine while driving it's just at idle they dim just a bit. Could that be my issue? Is this amp just very very power hungry? If I do upgrade my alt and still have issues is there anyway I can rma this amp as far as I know I don't recall any warranty, I'll read up on that right now.

And what about the amp noise, driving me nuts!

[loudcav 1]

That amp should be stable down to at least 1 ohm. If its going into protection, check your electrical system. Would you mind listing any upgrades/modifications to your electrical? A 3kw amp is going to require a bit of beefing up. As far as the rattling goes, where and how is the amp mounted? As far as your gains go, they should be set by playing a roughly 50Hz sine, with the HU turned up just below IT's distortion, then turn the 3000D's gain up until it hits distortion, and back it off a teensy bit

What Steve said.... What's your electrical upgrades , i.e. : Batts, Alts, Wiring?

The 3000 pullls a **itload of power. Are you supplying enough power to feed it enough juice?

Just one strong battery, wiring I believe is done. Everything except the alt. has been done. I do plan to upgrade but as now not yet, the lights are fine while driving it's just at idle they dim just a bit. Could that be my issue? Is this amp just very very power hungry? If I do upgrade my alt and still have issues is there anyway I can rma this amp as far as I know I don't recall any warranty, I'll read up on that right now.

And what about the amp noise, driving me nuts!

Jacob reccomends a 200 amp alt and atleast one Powermaster D3100 battery. Personaly I run a 200 amp alt a Powermaster D2400 up front and an Alpha Cell GXL180 in the back connected with a total of 6 runs of 1/0g wire 3 posative 3 ground. its overkill I know but I plan on adding a 2nd 3000D in a few monthes

[RemixPinoY 0]

So what do you think, is this amp just very power hungry? If I don't have my alt. upgraded will it just die off in terms of stability at 1omhs? My stock alt. is at 110volts if I recall, and I do plan to upgrade probably around 250-300, overkill I know but I just want to be sure I never have any issues anymore. I have an interstate battery but I guess I need something better like an oddesy.

[loudcav 1]

So what do you think, is this amp just very power hungry? If I don't have my alt. upgraded will it just die off in terms of stability at 1omhs? My stock alt. is at 110volts if I recall, and I do plan to upgrade probably around 250-300, overkill I know but I just want to be sure I never have any issues anymore. I have an interstate battery but I guess I need something better like an oddesy.

ya the amps are very serious there isnt a damn thing wrong with overkill. If Im not mistaken they can draw upwards of 400 amps but yeah they are efficient for their size.

[jonbearsmt 919]

wiring I believe is done?????????

you dont know if you had it done or not?

and your installer should know about this kinda stuff. if not get a new one.

110 amp alt wont cut it. and it kinda seems like you might be trying to run that amp on a OEM system with like 10 gauge wiring kit or somthing

[loudcav 1]

wiring I believe is done?????????

you dont know if you had it done or not?

and your installer should know about this kinda stuff. if not get a new one.

110 amp alt wont cut it. and it kinda seems like you might be trying to run that amp on a OEM system with like 10 gauge wiring kit or somthing

yeah that amp isnt a joke its the real deal its no joke you need thick wire, an alt, and multiple batteries

[RemixPinoY 0]

wiring I believe is done?????????

you dont know if you had it done or not?

and your installer should know about this kinda stuff. if not get a new one.

110 amp alt wont cut it. and it kinda seems like you might be trying to run that amp on a OEM system with like 10 gauge wiring kit or somthing

yeah that amp isnt a joke its the real deal its no joke you need thick wire, an alt, and multiple batteries

lol I have aftermarket wiring for sure, just don't know if it's exactly 0 gauge, I will ask. And yeah I know 110 won't cut it thats why gains are not up, but what I want to know is the ohm stability. Is it only going to do 1ohm if I have a bigger alt and more juice going to it? And do I seriously need multiple batteries??!?!?!?? I talked to Scott and it didn't seem like I would of needed very much, man...

[danracer 0]

check if its your radio...my amp goes into protection at 2 ohms because of my damn radio...conect an ipod directly to the amp and check if it goes into protection....i have a 1500d and even with the volume at 0 it goes into protection....it ill definitly do 1 ohm or perhaps lower if you have a strong electrical system

[sundownz 197]

What RCA cables are you using?

And yes, your electrical system is inadequate for any 3000 watt amplifier. It is not "power hungry" but it is a real 3000+ watt amplifier and requires substantially more current than a stock charging system can supply.

Also, where did you get it? If you really do have a problem we should find out if you do have a warranty on it.

[sundownz 197]

Hey everyone I'm, having issues right now with my amp. I don't know too much about wiring and etc but my installer says that the amp I have isn't stable at 2ohm's and won't try 1ohm for fear of blowing the amp. It's stable at 4ohms but thats it, so right I have no idea what to do about it. Is the amp just bad? I ordered it almost two months ago but just installed it today and forgot to even see if I had a warranty when purchasing. Also the amp as it is now is pushing two AA havoc 12's in a sealed box and the amp is just rattling BAD. Like real real bad were it's so annoying and loud that everyone can hear it. So whats going on? Is this amp just bad in both it's stability and metal casing? Please I need help.... Thanks!

1) Your installer is wrong. It sounds like he may not know what he is talking about.

2) The amp is rattling? How do you have it mounted? Sounds like it is loosely mounted as the bottom covers don't rattle easily by any means.

Post some pics of your install if you can.

[RemixPinoY 0]

It looks like this basically.

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I had everything there taken out and had the box modded to fit 12's from the 10 inch kickers. And the amp that I had swapped for the sundown. I know it's not the best place to mount an amp, but from what I've heard in rattles it wouldn't matter if I put it anywhere else it seems. Not sure so tell me if I'm wrong. As far as rca cables I'll find out today or tomorrow. And I got it from SSaudio AKA Mark off the phone and he had it shipped to me.

Also, so since my eletrical is pretty much stock in terms of my alternator, that is the reason why it will not go 2ohm stable right?

[sundownz 197]

People have 3000s in installs doing 150s and I've never had complaints about rattles, did you see if the bottom screws are tight? Is the amp bottom actually pressed against a surface, or no?

Some RCA cables do not play well with the amps -- namely some nicer Stinger and Memphis cables, perhaps a few others, but those are the ones I know of. This can cause the amp to go into protection -- try a cheap RCA cable, like the red and white end ones from Radio Shack -- those always work.

As for the electrical... yes, that is not ideal for the 3000D at all. I'd imagine that since your vehicle is a Toyota the alternator is pretty small as well as the battery. That could stand some upgrading... but I doubt that is why it is entering protection at 2 ohms unless the gain and/or bass boost are maxed out.

The amps are absolutely stable at 1 ohm when setup and working properly. I run them in my SPL truck at 1/2 ohm and play it for extended periods of time -- but I do have two alternators and nine batteries in there. Takes power to make power

[TRZ 0]

your installer ooooorrrrrrrrr ,maybeee it was a friend who installed it and not a installer sounds more like it. You need to go to a local shop find a certified mecp installer and have him fix the problem .

[packetnoise 0]

your installer ooooorrrrrrrrr ,maybeee it was a friend who installed it and not a installer sounds more like it. You need to go to a local shop find a certified mecp installer and have him fix the problem .

IMO this is why there should be some kind of pre-screening to own an amp of this size? To the OP, you're an IDIOT. You should sell the sundown amp and go back to best buy where you tried to have it installed to buy something a little bit smaller!

[stratusrt01 0]

If he "modified" your 10" box to fit 12's, then he's not a real installer anyways. Sounds like you need to find someone who knows what they are doing. Where are you from, maybe someone from SSA is close and can point you in the right direction, which you are not in right now.

[fbi90909 0]

your installer ooooorrrrrrrrr ,maybeee it was a friend who installed it and not a installer sounds more like it. You need to go to a local shop find a certified mecp installer and have him fix the problem .

IMO this is why there should be some kind of pre-screening to own an amp of this size? To the OP, you're an IDIOT. You should sell the sundown amp and go back to best buy where you tried to have it installed to buy something a little bit smaller!

calling him an idiot and referring him to best buy is not a solution and will just get you banned for your ignorance. any body can own an amp of any size. sure he may or may not know what he is doing which is why he took it to an installer. as for the installers part if he didn't know what he was doing then he should not be installing. the reason the OP is here is to figure out what is wrong. not everyone can tell right off the bat to wtf is wrong with their system.

chit dood i have 2 1500d's. I've blown a few subs and ghetto rigged a bunch of chit for kicks. does that mean I'm an idiot and should not own my amps??? to get where i am at i had to learn one way or another. just like him, and just like you or any of us.