No Love for Sundown!!!!

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Different strokes for different folks.

Sundown gets plenty of love.

EXACTLY!!! I'm most definitely not turning back.......

[BigBodyLexus 3]

Why laugh at mainstream brands? These brands all started off as a small business, a lot like Sundown and they have put out quality products and continue to do so, and that's how they become and stay mainstream. Quality products and good customer service. Sundown very well could become a mainstream brand because of those qualities, would you then laugh at Sundown because of their success?

Well let's see, when you have a good thing why mess with it. You may not be old enough but I remember when Coca Cola reformulated it's recipe and changed the taste, it lasted all of 6 months. After many complaints that switched back to their old formula. I can't see Jacob messing with the success that he's having right now. Most of the time when companies trade customer service for larger profits they lose sight of what customers really want. Most of your mainstream companies have done just that. I have owned at least (2) 12's from almost every mainstream company you could name. I was very impressed with not only what I saw and heard from Sundown Audio, but I was more impressed with what people had to say about Sundown Audio. So when I laugh, it's because I can. When Sundown becomes mainstream, as long as Jacob continues to do what he's doing now, I have no reason to laugh at him or his company.

[todd.brust 29]

Why laugh at mainstream brands? These brands all started off as a small business, a lot like Sundown and they have put out quality products and continue to do so, and that's how they become and stay mainstream. Quality products and good customer service. Sundown very well could become a mainstream brand because of those qualities, would you then laugh at Sundown because of their success?

Well let's see, when you have a good thing why mess with it. You may not be old enough but I remember when Coca Cola reformulated it's recipe and changed the taste, it lasted all of 6 months. After many complaints that switched back to their old formula. I can't see Jacob messing with the success that he's having right now. Most of the time when companies trade customer service for larger profits they lose sight of what customers really want. Most of your mainstream companies have done just that. I have owned at least (2) 12's from almost every mainstream company you could name. I was very impressed with not only what I saw and heard from Sundown Audio, but I was more impressed with what people had to say about Sundown Audio. So when I laugh, it's because I can. When Sundown becomes mainstream, as long as Jacob continues to do what he's doing now, I have no reason to laugh at him or his company.

If you don't think every business owner doesn't want exactly that, you fucking nuts. Thats the name of the game and ever company is in pursuit of that. Anyone who says otherwise is a fucking liar. That is done by producing more and selling more and/or cutting corners. You can't produce a top quality product at Wal Mart prices, but you can make a good product that can be sold for a good price, a cheaply made product for cheap prices, and a top quality product for top dollar prices.

And who says they have all sacrificed customer service or quality of product? Maybe some have but with all the brands we carry, do not. Exceptional customer service actually since we are a dealer and deal with different manufacturers directly on a daily basis. And we do that so the customer doesn't have to. They walk in, get product swapped same day , and leave, unless it's completely customer abuse, and even then we can get customers taken care of usually.

We carry Sundown, Alpine, Kenwood and their Excelon line, Orion, Alumapro, JL Audio, and an assortment of other brands for different things.

No lack of service and their products are geared for different scenarios and budgets.

You make cheaper products to appeal to people with small budgets. To make thing as cheap as they are, you have to sacrifice something. You can't sell a JL 1000/1 amplifier for 299.99 because they'd lose money just because of the cost to design, patent technologies, produce and advertise.

[Aaron Clinton 2,372]

There is no way for a shop to match the internet prices. Those big companys and buy in bulk. So what they are selling stuff for most of the time is what the shop pays for it. But unlike the internet if you have a problem with something you get from a shop then you can go back to shop and get the problem fixed the same day. You don't have to shipped it back and wait for another one to come back. Its great to get stuff at dealer cost until you have a problem with it. Would suck to buy a deck offline and then have to send it back. So then have no music for weeks.

Brick and Mortar stores can have a very high mark up. Products on line are not sold at dealer prices either.

[BigBodyLexus 3]

Why laugh at mainstream brands? These brands all started off as a small business, a lot like Sundown and they have put out quality products and continue to do so, and that's how they become and stay mainstream. Quality products and good customer service. Sundown very well could become a mainstream brand because of those qualities, would you then laugh at Sundown because of their success?

Well let's see, when you have a good thing why mess with it. You may not be old enough but I remember when Coca Cola reformulated it's recipe and changed the taste, it lasted all of 6 months. After many complaints that switched back to their old formula. I can't see Jacob messing with the success that he's having right now. Most of the time when companies trade customer service for larger profits they lose sight of what customers really want. Most of your mainstream companies have done just that. I have owned at least (2) 12's from almost every mainstream company you could name. I was very impressed with not only what I saw and heard from Sundown Audio, but I was more impressed with what people had to say about Sundown Audio. So when I laugh, it's because I can. When Sundown becomes mainstream, as long as Jacob continues to do what he's doing now, I have no reason to laugh at him or his company.

If you don't think every business owner doesn't want exactly that, you pucking nuts. Thats the name of the game and ever company is in pursuit of that. Anyone who says otherwise is a pucking liar. That is done by producing more and selling more and/or cutting corners. You can't produce a top quality product at Wal Mart prices, but you can make a good product that can be sold for a good price, a cheaply made product for cheap prices, and a top quality product for top dollar prices.

And who says they have all sacrificed customer service or quality of product? Maybe some have but with all the brands we carry, do not. Exceptional customer service actually since we are a dealer and deal with different manufacturers directly on a daily basis. And we do that so the customer doesn't have to. They walk in, get product swapped same day , and leave, unless it's completely customer abuse, and even then we can get customers taken care of usually.

We carry Sundown, Alpine, Kenwood and their Excelon line, Orion, Alumapro, JL Audio, and an assortment of other brands for different things.

No lack of service and their products are geared for different scenarios and budgets.

You make cheaper products to appeal to people with small budgets. To make thing as cheap as they are, you have to sacrifice something. You can't sell a JL 1000/1 amplifier for 299.99 because they'd lose money just because of the cost to design, patent technologies, produce and advertise.

Not to keep this going because to each his own but let's see Chrysler went bankrupt and is now owned by Fiat. GM went bankrupt and is owned by the US Government. Even though Ford received no assistance from the government they did mortgage their name to investors. I can keep going if necessary. When a business loses sight of what's truly important, the customer, that's a recipe for trouble no matter what business you are in. Every business is in it to make money, I know that, but when you stop taking care of customers whether it be customer service, the products sold, whatever, you lose sight of what made your business in the first place. Look at some of the other audio companies that made damn good products in the nineties and have fallen off. I can mention the following names because I have used their equipment: Orion, Kicker, Autotek, Hifonics, Crunch, and there are others. Regardless, Sundown Audio has found a recipe for a successful business and as long as he keeps doing what he's doing, I'll keep on buying and laughing.