Need Opinions...

[Boone11 0]

Well im just starting to learn about the car audio scene...i have a 1999 Jeep Cherokee stock and trying to find the best setup i can get for under a grand for just the sub and amp...hopefully without having to upgrade the electrical alot... i think it would be best to go wit a single sub instead of spending more on 2 subs and cheaper amp...figured better amp would be worth it in the long run..so either looking for one 12" or a 15" sub, space ain't a issue...i mainly listen to rap and r&b...basicly im looking to get a nice clear sub that has plenty of bass wen i want it, not looking for SPL just a good quality daily driver...probally going to go with a ported box also...i was looking mainly at Fi BL or Q series sub..also a friend of mine is selling a 12" W7 that i could grab off him for about 300...or maybe even a boston acoustic SPG555 sub haven't decided yet...

And as for a amp i was looking at either a sundown amp or most likely one of these...

http://www.hifisoundconnection.com/Shop/Co...sid/0/SFV/30046

http://www.hifisoundconnection.com/Shop/Co...r_by/sell_price

I am open to any suggestions... this is just wat i thought might work well with my budget... i personally have never heard any Fi Audio subs yet so looking to get anyones advice...any help i can get on wat my best option would be to go with and also any other parts that i might need to upgrade if i wanna run any of these setups is greatly appretiated...thanks

PS: Wat Options are best to put on the BL subs if i do get one....

[Boone11 0]

sorry bout that guys.. computer went nuts on me...really didnt mean to post that many times..my bad...

[Mark LaFountain 1,054]

not a problem, all fixed...

[tezin87 0]

I really like my 10'' BL. It sounds good on all types of music. Of course there are a lot better sounding subs out there, but the BL is a great daily sub. I have the p-chamfer, universal, and daily options on mine and it takes 1000w no problem. A $1000 budget for subs and amp can get you a great sounding and loud setup. I'd suggest you pick up the SAZ1500d, 12'' or 15'' of your choice, and use the rest of the budget to do the big 3 and maybe a battery if necessary.

[ncacoates 104]

Mine sounds awesome and im right at a grand. Fi Q or Bl is a great choice with a saz1500d. Pick up a yellow top or a good kinetic battery and you should be set.

[Boone11 0]

wheres a good site to get a saz1500d from...havent found any cheap... is that a better amp than the massive audios?

[NB50 206]

I wouldn't touch the massive audio amps, their just dirty unreliable amps to me.

You can get a SAZ1500 from the shop here.

http://www.soundsolutionsaudio.com/zencart...p;products_id=3

Or a refurbished one from DB-r

http://www.db-r.com/sell/store/index.php?categoryID=92

Or PM Sundownz to see if he has any used ones.

[Boone11 0]

is refurbish worth buying? or do they have alot of problems?

[NB50 206]

I would have no problem buying a refurb from db-r. they still carry a one year warranty, that is longer then most manufactures brand new.

[Boone11 0]

and how would u wire that amp with a 12" bl...

[NB50 206]

That is a difficult one.

you could get a dual 1 ohm coil and series the coils for a 2 ohm load should get about 900 watts out of if then you have the option to add a second if you wanted.

Or you could get a dual 2 ohm coil and parallel the coils and adjust gains accordingly.

[Boone11 0]

ya thats the part im clueless about lol... the whole ohms...im gonna have to find a site to look into it... with way that u mentioned would get the best outta that amp, in ur opinion...

[Boone11 0]

also does anyone kno the differance in the new and old heatsink design on the SAZ-1500D....and is it worth spending the extra 25 bucks or no...thanks

[NB50 206]

You could put more power to the bl going with the D2 wired to one ohm, but then you will need to be careful not to over power it.

Myself I would go with D1 wired in series to 2 ohms with the possibility to add a second. You should be able to get a good 800 - 900 watts out of the 1500 at 2ohms which is enough to power to bl

Edit, New heat sink has more material to dissipate heat better. I don't recall if it has any extra crossover options added though.

Edited December 1, 2008 by bromo

[ShaneSauce 2]

New heatsink is better I'm guessing.

Or else they wouldn't come out with a new one.

Just throw in the extra $25.

[Boone11 0]

ya i figured the new heatsink would be better but that site for refurbished amps is sold out of the new series... just have the old series left..

[ShaneSauce 2]

Hell the old heatsinks are good too.

Just go with the old heatsink refurb you will be glad you did.

Anything sundown makes is good.

[Boone11 0]

ya i think im gonna go with the old one while they have one...how do u guys think the 12" BL compares with a 12" W7? and would u guys think going with a 15" BL instead would be worth while since i got the space and price isnt much more...

[ShaneSauce 2]

ya i think im gonna go with the old one while they have one...how do u guys think the 12" BL compares with a 12" W7? and would u guys think going with a 15" BL instead would be worth while since i got the space and price isnt much more...

With JL Audio you are pretty much paying for the name.

I mean the W7's are good woofers too but I would pick the BL any day.

Go with the 15 if your trying to get loud.

[Boone11 0]

well my cousin is trying to sell my his 12" W7... and a 2000watt pioneer amp for $400...thinking if it would be best to grab it off him or not...im really leaning towards the BL...even though i have never heard one yet... i

[Boone11 0]

a pioneer premier amp... its prob 1000rms or something... i gotta find out the full name....

[ShaneSauce 2]

Its probably this amp.

$400 isn't a bad deal for that, but I would still get a BL and Sundown 1500

[Duran 387]

ya i think im gonna go with the old one while they have one...how do u guys think the 12" BL compares with a 12" W7? and would u guys think going with a 15" BL instead would be worth while since i got the space and price isnt much more...

It it were a W6 I would go for it, but W7's are very over rated.

[Boone11 0]

alright so it looks like im going to get the sundown saz-1500d... with a BL sub... now should i just go with the 15" since its only 20bucks more and will get louder overall? my only worry about it is will the sound clarity get worse since its a 15" not a 12".... just wondering cause i heard the smaller th esub the snappier it is and usually the clearer... thanks for all ur help by the way guys...

[ShaneSauce 2]

There have been long drawn out arguments about "tighter" sounding bass and smaller woofers.

But I believe it's not true, the 15 will sound just as good as the 12.