Record Player needs cartridge

[MKader17 332]

Found a Technics SL-210 in the attic at the folks house, as well as a bunch of old records

Going to get a replacement belt from http://www.turntablebasics.com/belts/technics.html

Also needs a needle/cartridge.

JimJ, where can I get the Shure cartridge that you mentioned? or what are some good budget minded cartridges?

Would love to get this thing running again. Will hopefully sound great when I get some BIB's up, built, and running

[JimJ 11]

http://www.needledoctor.com

They've always been quick ordering cartridges from. They have a decent selection of budget cartridges, but just be careful, you'll probably be spending $50-$100 for a good hi-fi cart. $25 cartridges aren't useful for much other than scratching.

Do you have a phono preamp built into whatever amp you're going to be using, or do you need to buy an external one?

[MKader17 332]

http://www.needledoctor.com

They've always been quick ordering cartridges from. They have a decent selection of budget cartridges, but just be careful, you'll probably be spending $50-$100 for a good hi-fi cart. $25 cartridges aren't useful for much other than scratching.

Do you have a phono preamp built into whatever amp you're going to be using, or do you need to buy an external one?

a who? lol

I'm going to be using a Adcom GTP450 Pre-Amp if that helps. The player has just regular RCA cables coming from it, along with a ground cable

[JimJ 11]

That one doesn't have a phono input, so you need an external phono preamp in between the Adcom and the TT.

http://hagtech.com/bugle.html

That's a very-well reviewed phono pre...

[MKader17 332]

What makes the phono different from normal RCA's?

and I could have sworn that pre-amp had phono for some reason. that converter costs more than my pre-amp itself

[JimJ 11]

What makes the phono different from normal RCA's?

The output from a normal line-level source is around 1-2 volts...the output from a high-output cartridge is around 4-6 millivolts

that converter costs more than my pre-amp itself

Good phono stages usually do, they're a lot tougher to design than line-level preamps are.

[///M5 2,833]

Definitely harder to make 4mV noise free versus 2v. Part of the reason you should be happy your Adcom doesn't have one as it wouldn't be worth using hardly.

[MKader17 332]

Definitely harder to make 4mV noise free versus 2v. Part of the reason you should be happy your Adcom doesn't have one as it wouldn't be worth using hardly.

So it wouldn't be worth it to sell off my 450 for a 400 or 500 with phono input?

[///M5 2,833]

Depends on the reason that you want to listen to LP's. If it is to truly experience an analog recording the right way, then sell the Adcom buy one of these

http://www.promitheusaudio.com/TVC-StainlessSteel.HTM and a good pre-amp that Jim can recommend. If it is just to play some records then sell your Adcom and get a different one with a phono input. Keep the Adcom amplifier for sure though.

[MKader17 332]

Looks like I'll be selling the adcom pre-amp for one with a phono input. Though I would like to follow the first option, there is no way in the world my budget allows. I'm just stepping in to the Home Audio world and would like to keep it small.

If that TVC isn't a pre-amp in its own right then what is it? I see inputs and outputs and a volume control, isn't that just what a Pre-amp is?

[///M5 2,833]

It is a passive pre-amp