BTL questions

[whitey 0]

hey whats up im new. i have two btl 18s and im looking for the best box dims and affordable amp combo. i just recently came across these and i want someone who knows what they're talking about to tell me what i should do. idk much about these other then they beat REALLY F'N HARD. help me help me

Edited May 27, 2008 by whitey

[johnecon2001 82]

The BTL isn't something you can just give recommendations without knowing a few more things about what you have.

So how about a little more information on your part? All we know so far is you have 2 BTL 18" woofers.

[whitey 0]

The BTL isn't something you can just give recommendations without knowing a few more things about what you have.

So how about a little more information on your part? All we know so far is you have 2 BTL 18" woofers.

if i knew more i would tell you but i honestly dont. these are my first fi's let alone 18s. what info do you need? i got two btls with no amp and no box looking to put them in a gutted 98 crown vic x police car if they'll fit. i was using cheap amps and ghetto ass boxes for my last set up which was two older RF 15 inch punch's but nothing from that set up will really work for my new application. i know a bit about bass systems, but not that much. i have around 800 bucks and several sheets of 3/4'' and a few sheets of 1/2'' mdf. not looking to be made a fool of, i really just want to do this right.

Edited May 27, 2008 by whitey

[chad.SQ 0]

The BTL isn't something you can just give recommendations without knowing a few more things about what you have.

So how about a little more information on your part? All we know so far is you have 2 BTL 18" woofers.

if i knew more i would tell you but i honestly dont. these are my first fi's let alone 18s. what info do you need? i got two btls with no amp and no box looking to put them in a gutted 98 crown vic x police car if they'll fit. i was using cheap amps and ghetto ass boxes for my last set up which was two older RF 15 inch punch's but nothing from that set up will really work for my new application. i know a bit about bass systems, but not that much. i have around 800 bucks and several sheets of 3/4'' and a few sheets of 1/2'' mdf. not looking to be made a fool of, i really just want to do this right.

Dude. You bought 2 woofers without thinking first. Each of those BTL's are 2000 watts a peice. Your gonna need a LOT more than 800 dollars to get powerful enough amps. Not to mention electrical upgrades. And I almost forgot about that the space you have is not suitable for two 18 BTL's. You got too excited and bought on emotion and didnt think before spending your money. Your only gonna be able to use one of those subs and that too will be underpowered

[///M5 2,833]

I'd like to see how you are going to get 18-20 (external dim) cubic feet in the trunk of that car...regrettably it isn't really possible.

You have two choices: Lose the back seat or part of it, or sell your drivers and get something else.

Also, as stated $800 isn't going to cut the mustard to power those. That will barely cover what you need to do on the electrical side to support them. Get ready to at least double that number, but you will probably even need more yet. Then once you add the custom work to your seat and back area, you are going to need even more cash.

[armandomacedo 0]

if your looking for an amp maybe look into a hifonics brutus 2008d. you can find them for bout 300 ebay. Not the best amp but they'll work. you do need more money for batts, alt, and wiring. good luck with the air space.

[whitey 0]

I'd like to see how you are going to get 18-20 (external dim) cubic feet in the trunk of that car...regrettably it isn't really possible.

You have two choices: Lose the back seat or part of it, or sell your drivers and get something else.

Also, as stated $800 isn't going to cut the mustard to power those. That will barely cover what you need to do on the electrical side to support them. Get ready to at least double that number, but you will probably even need more yet. Then once you add the custom work to your seat and back area, you are going to need even more cash.

like i said, the car is gutted. no back seats. i got lots of room. and i found the speakers at a yard sale-no joke. if some one is selling that kind of equipment not knowing what it is at 80 bucks, you dont pass up that kind of deal. i currently have 800, but thats just my side money i saved up over a few months. i dont have bills, being a teenager. just give me an idea im looking for the best bang for my buck. if i wanted people to talk chit, i would quit community college and go back to high school

[whitey 0]

I'd like to see how you are going to get 18-20 (external dim) cubic feet in the trunk of that car...regrettably it isn't really possible.

You have two choices: Lose the back seat or part of it, or sell your drivers and get something else.

Also, as stated $800 isn't going to cut the mustard to power those. That will barely cover what you need to do on the electrical side to support them. Get ready to at least double that number, but you will probably even need more yet. Then once you add the custom work to your seat and back area, you are going to need even more cash.

i have prepped my electrical system though. its ghetto, but it works kinda. i did some fabricating and doubled up on the stock alternaters and added an optima battery. besides, these are subwoofers, not a nucleor reactor.

[patented17 21]

You'll need a bigger alt., to supply power for your car's electronics, and now two or one high powered amp. You'll also probably need a set or two of some deep cycle batteries. I'd assume that on the crown vic you could go all the way up to an 300 amp alt.

[buickid 0]

I would say sell the woofers and get something like two 15 or 18 Fi SSDs and a SAZ-1500D. That would be more in your budget. It would likely get louder then two BTL 18s on whatever amp and electrical system you could buy with $800 too.

[BKOLFO4 29]

i found the speakers at a yard sale-no joke. if some one is selling that kind of equipment not knowing what it is at 80 bucks, you dont pass up that kind of deal.

Are you saying you bought BTL 18's for $80???????

[whitey 0]

i found the speakers at a yard sale-no joke. if some one is selling that kind of equipment not knowing what it is at 80 bucks, you dont pass up that kind of deal.

Are you saying you bought BTL 18's for $80???????

that is exactly what im saying. i saw a yard sale, decided to check it out, and i saw two humungous subs that said FI on the cone. i asked how much and the old man said 80. i have no clue how he got them and i didnt care to ask. believe it or not i dont care. i thought i was dreaming when i bought them

[whitey 0]

You'll need a bigger alt., to supply power for your car's electronics, and now two or one high powered amp. You'll also probably need a set or two of some deep cycle batteries. I'd assume that on the crown vic you could go all the way up to an 300 amp alt.

idk about all that. my friend had 2 fifteen inch RF power t2s with a 2400 x 2 power acoustic amp in an 87 crown vic with a beasty capacitor. what if i just bought a mean ass capacitor like his, which is pretty much a small battery, would that compensate for much? cuz his car barely had one alternater and a chitty battery. i just want mine to get working first, then upgrade to bigger and better chit

[johnecon2001 82]

You don't deserve those BTL's talking like that..

[whitey 0]

You don't deserve those BTL's talking like that..

its not that im unwilling to spend alot of money, i just really want to hear them now. not in a couple of months, right now. can someone just tell me a good box design? it doesnt have to fit in my car, i have other places to put them. dont worry about my electrical systems, just tell me what i want to know.

[buickid 0]

I'm going to tell it to you straight.

Those BTLs aren't going to sound good with what your budget.

Even if you buy a beefy enough amp to give them enough power, you'll burn up the amp in short order with your stock electrical system.

If you're on a limited budget, I would consider what I said earlier... Sell the BTLs, buy a couple Fi SSDs (~800w RMS each), a Sundown SAZ-1500D (~1500 Watts), and then build a ported box. It should get louder then your BTLs with your current budget, and sound better, given the proper installation.

Bottom line: Your situation simply isn't conducive to using the BTLs.

Edited May 28, 2008 by SteveSan

[solobarric 0]

Calm down for a sec guy, You could build a box to the proper specs in the space you have, but like everyone is teling you they need alot of power. From what I've been hearing around 3000 watts true rms, also your going to need to run 0AWG back to what ever amps you buy to supply the current you need, that alone will run you around $150.00. You could buy 2 Ma Audio HC4000-D's for around $500 a piece on ebay but you would have to spend about the same amount or more upgrading the power system to get them to produce the wattage you are lookin for. Thats the problem with running high current amps at low ohms they use alot of power and you end up spending the same if not more money upgrading the elec. system.

[whitey 0]

Calm down for a sec guy, You could build a box to the proper specs in the space you have, but like everyone is teling you they need alot of power. From what I've been hearing around 3000 watts true rms, also your going to need to run 0AWG back to what ever amps you buy to supply the current you need, that alone will run you around $150.00. You could buy 2 Ma Audio HC4000-D's for around $500 a piece on ebay but you would have to spend about the same amount or more upgrading the power system to get them to produce the wattage you are lookin for. Thats the problem with running high current amps at low ohms they use alot of power and you end up spending the same if not more money upgrading the elec. system.

oh. ok yeah that does make sense. i thought today was international talk chit to me day ha ha. dam. well, what good 15's are on the market nowadays if you dont mind me asking?

[audio-neon 34]

Calm down for a sec guy, You could build a box to the proper specs in the space you have, but like everyone is teling you they need alot of power. From what I've been hearing around 3000 watts true rms, also your going to need to run 0AWG back to what ever amps you buy to supply the current you need, that alone will run you around $150.00. You could buy 2 Ma Audio HC4000-D's for around $500 a piece on ebay but you would have to spend about the same amount or more upgrading the power system to get them to produce the wattage you are lookin for. Thats the problem with running high current amps at low ohms they use alot of power and you end up spending the same if not more money upgrading the elec. system.

oh. ok yeah that does make sense. i thought today was international talk chit to me day ha ha. dam. well, what good 15's are on the market nowadays if you dont mind me asking?

Why not sell one of the Btl's. Than with your 1000 or so dollars buy a h/o alt, an amp kit and a sundown saz-1500d.

[whitey 0]

Calm down for a sec guy, You could build a box to the proper specs in the space you have, but like everyone is teling you they need alot of power. From what I've been hearing around 3000 watts true rms, also your going to need to run 0AWG back to what ever amps you buy to supply the current you need, that alone will run you around $150.00. You could buy 2 Ma Audio HC4000-D's for around $500 a piece on ebay but you would have to spend about the same amount or more upgrading the power system to get them to produce the wattage you are lookin for. Thats the problem with running high current amps at low ohms they use alot of power and you end up spending the same if not more money upgrading the elec. system.

oh. ok yeah that does make sense. i thought today was international talk chit to me day ha ha. dam. well, what good 15's are on the market nowadays if you dont mind me asking?

Why not sell one of the Btl's. Than with your 1000 or so dollars buy a h/o alt, an amp kit and a sundown saz-1500d.

yeah i guess i can do that. idk i might just sell both and get a couple of fifteens. i really like the sound of two fifteens. if i bought a set of fifteeens with around, say 2000 watts peak my electrical system could handle it, right?

[tezin87 0]

don't go by peak go by rms

[buickid 0]

Like I said, the Fi SSDs are great street beaters, and one Sundown SAZ-1500D will power both of them nicely. Since its an ex-police car, it should have a bigger alternator then the regular street trim already, probably about 110 amps or so. This means that if you do a good wiring job, and everything else is peachy, the 1500D should lay down about 1500-1600 watts at 1 ohm. The two SSDs will slam on that power, given the proper box.

[whitey 0]

Like I said, the Fi SSDs are great street beaters, and one Sundown SAZ-1500D will power both of them nicely. Since its an ex-police car, it should have a bigger alternator then the regular street trim already, probably about 110 amps or so. This means that if you do a good wiring job, and everything else is peachy, the 1500D should lay down about 1500-1600 watts at 1 ohm. The two SSDs will slam on that power, given the proper box.

yeah thats a pretty good idea i just looked those ssd subs up on the fi website and they dont look like i thought they would. yeah i think those would suit my needs.

[mazzasec 0]

you bought them for 80 il buy them both for 400

[whitey 0]

you bought them for 80 il buy them both for 400

ye-no. these are minz no way. i'll find a way to use them.