UpGradde 7 Posted March 25, 2010 Whats up yall. Started the box about 2 days ago, still need about another 2 days to finish everything. Its been raining but it'll be gone by tomorrow. This is my first 4th order enclosure, although I have built countless sealed and ported boxes. I am trying to keep this system lightweight, while still being somewhat loud. I had 2 Fi btls before but it was just too much weight for my car. 4th order is 1 cu.ft for the sealed chamber and 1.8 cu.ft for the vented chamber after sub and port displacement. It is tuned to ~43hz. 2 4" aeros. It is ported into the cabin via the rear seat armrest. Wat?Build consists of:112 sq ft. of Dynacrap XtremePioneer AVH-P5100DVDArc Audio KS300.4Hertz HSK 165 comps(newest model)RE AX3200DETC Sounds Axis Neo 12XS Power D2400 / Oznium interior & exterior lightingBig 3 / All Knukonceptz wiring/rcas even the godam remote wirePICSHURES:The CarHouse of Kolor Kandy Orange with a silver baseInside the outdated 1991 MSeats out of a 03 G35Dynacrap every where.Even the roofMy new Comps, thanks to viet.Mids sealed like a muther****erCrossoverA pillars gettin ready for paint and tweets 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
UpGradde 7 Posted March 25, 2010 Tweets on the A pillarsCustom switches for lights, rad fan, and kill switch for bass amp.Done, pasted with loctite superglue found at the Home depotWhat the hell, it turned blue!RE AX3200DE with plexi back coverSeXyArc Audio KS300.4Guts and fansGizmos and turbo switches galore. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
UpGradde 7 Posted March 25, 2010 My truck carrying a sheet of birch like it was a ****en paper clip.The lightweight Beast10" spidersHello, I'm Mr. Bass, how can I help you?Cuttin the birch, tablesaw isnt pictured because its on THE flo. Sealin the godamm trunk off, makin my angled cuts and thangs.Aero Baffle4th order gettin built.Holes cut for AerosTest fit 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
UpGradde 7 Posted March 25, 2010 painting the port bafflepainted and weater strippedWould you look at that, it is basically sealedtesting the tubes, just for ****ing sakesThere she is, saying look at my titanium cone. U dont want this.Bit of cement for the aeros.This stuff stanksCement applied, even got my mirror to check around that hoe 360. Ported chamber, threw in a led for red death portsSealed chamber. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
UpGradde 7 Posted March 25, 2010 Now all I need is to line em up.There it is wowCarpeted the box with carpet from PECreating the amp rack with the jig.Made from 1/2" BirchGetting ready to carpetDoneTest fitting the Re ax3200deThrew in an Antec 3 speed switch fan to expell that hot airTest fit.---------------------------------And thats it for now. It got dark on me. Tomorrow, I wire everything up and do some light testing. Hope you guys enjoyed watching all these pics, it was hell to get em up here. Comments, critisism, opinions are all welcome!Edward 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bigrank916 72 Posted March 25, 2010 Great lookin shit man. A lot of nice fabrication ideas too. Pretty creative dude. This looks to be damn loud! 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
07smurf 0 Posted March 25, 2010 Lookin good man lookn good I never tried a 4th order just seals or ported maybe this summer I'll try one out 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cheese20323 13 Posted March 25, 2010 Damn bro you have some good building skills i give you props. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jcarter1885 995 Posted March 25, 2010 NIce, very nice 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
UpGradde 7 Posted March 25, 2010 Thanks for all the comments! I sure hope it is loud, we'll see tomorrow, i'll try and get some vids for my ssa brothas! 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Randal Johnson 544 Posted March 25, 2010 awesome ... 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ChaosWarlord26 5 Posted March 25, 2010 sweet build, lets see those videos. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
UpGradde 7 Posted March 26, 2010 Don't have videos yet but this thing gets pretty damn loud and LOW! There is a notable difference that I can tell going from a ported enclosure to a 4th order.1. Narrow passband (I guess thats what its called). Can Only play frequencies from like 28hz to ~50hz. Above 50, it looses output a LOT.2. Bass is not precise (ie like a kick drum on a sealed or even a ported box).3. Bass sounds very deep, engulfs the whole car with it, highs can keep up but on some songs the bass is just too overwhelming (thank you decaf).4. Hardly any rattle from the trunk. I can open my trunk and not loose any output in the cabin.5. A 4th order is perfect for rap music (which has a lot of low freq. material), but when it comes to rock/alternative, output isnt so great. Thats where an epicenter comes in lol.6. Bottom line: If you want low and deep bass, and dont care about a narrow frequency range, definatley consider a 4th order. It is (at least from my experience) louder then a ported box.Overall I am satisfied with the output. The closest I can compare this system to was my 2 12 fi bls ported on a gp3kpro. Only difference is the 4th order gets lower but the bls get a lil bit louder ~1db is my guess. The TC shakes my steering wheel on songs with 30-35hz. I just cant believe the output for such a lightweight system, which was my goal, and I think I achieved it. Next move, rb25det! 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mac N Cheese 90 Posted March 27, 2010 solid build man!keep it up 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CadillacMatt 31 Posted July 25, 2010 Hey Ed know this is an old thread revive but as time goes by I find myself knocking at that 4th order door... just wanted to know how you arrived at all your calculations, I've been researching non-stop for the past two days on 4th orders and getting familiarized with WinISD, but it keeps recommending an enclosure about the same size as yours for the 18" I have! I'm waiting on a response over in the Sundown forum for the T/S specs of my Nightshade but after that I'll be ready to rock and roll.I loved the way your setup sounded at the last meet man, but I think when I design mine I'm going to make the sealed portion a bit bigger and the ported a bit smaller just to widen the passband a little bit... or at least from what I hear. Meh. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
n8skow 0 Posted August 6, 2010 Concerning bandpass, the variable is between the passband and gain, your box 'can' have a larger passband if it's designed with less gain (the S factor).This is determined by the volume of your ported side. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
UpGradde 7 Posted August 8, 2010 Hey Ed know this is an old thread revive but as time goes by I find myself knocking at that 4th order door... just wanted to know how you arrived at all your calculations, I've been researching non-stop for the past two days on 4th orders and getting familiarized with WinISD, but it keeps recommending an enclosure about the same size as yours for the 18" I have! I'm waiting on a response over in the Sundown forum for the T/S specs of my Nightshade but after that I'll be ready to rock and roll.I loved the way your setup sounded at the last meet man, but I think when I design mine I'm going to make the sealed portion a bit bigger and the ported a bit smaller just to widen the passband a little bit... or at least from what I hear. Meh. FUCK! Just saw this right now, sorry I am so late but I've been busy with work sooo much that I haven't logged in here for like 2 months...I see I am too late now as you've built your box already. Oh well, can't wait to hear how it turns out, literally. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites