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[dB Don]

I apologize for my crappy filming and editing skills, my talents are elsewhere.

[onebadmonte]

Good deal. Nice vid to boot. Congrats on the new upgrade.

[dB Don]

Well it's no where near as loud as the stetsom 7k's but who really drives around with 162 dB all the time. This will do me just fine till I get my new amps!

[onebadmonte]

O_o New amps??!!! Is someone waiting for a shipment of NS-1s to come in Keep the good stuff coming. It cracks me up it says "newbie" under your user name. "Newbie", yeah right.

[Alton]

This is a PERFECT example of why cone area is king. Every time someone posts asking about upgrading amps and they hate the answers they get (which is usually keeping their current amp) from the members here they need to see this. 14kw compared to 1500 and it only made about a 6dB difference? At about a 10x difference in power? Standard theory says that 6dB difference should have been made at 6kw. Sure wish more people could understand that.

On the other hand, that's a terrific score on that power difference. Love the video.

[onebadmonte]

This is a PERFECT example of why cone area is king. Every time someone posts asking about upgrading amps and they hate the answers they get (which is usually keeping their current amp) from the members here they need to see this. 14kw compared to 1500 and it only made about a 6dB difference? At about a 10x difference in power? Standard theory says that 6dB difference should have been made at 6kw. Sure wish more people could understand that.

On the other hand, that's a terrific score on that power difference. Love the video.

I don't know what your talking about. What this guy has done is just magical. Cone area or not, those are 3k rated N3s getting just under 400watts each. There's more to it than just cone area. I don't think the same is possible with 4 dcons. Then again I don't know much about anything. Very impressive vid none the less.

Edited by onebadmonte, 25 March 2012 - 07:57 PM.

[dB Don]

I am clamping just a hair over 3kw so that's a lot more than most will get from this amp. And I run it at .35 ohm (rise to 1.3 ohm) so that and the 18 volt account for the increase over 1500 wrms. So it's more like 750 wrms per subwoofer.

[Alton]

This is a PERFECT example of why cone area is king. Every time someone posts asking about upgrading amps and they hate the answers they get (which is usually keeping their current amp) from the members here they need to see this. 14kw compared to 1500 and it only made about a 6dB difference? At about a 10x difference in power? Standard theory says that 6dB difference should have been made at 6kw. Sure wish more people could understand that.

On the other hand, that's a terrific score on that power difference. Love the video.

I don't know what your talking about. What this guy has done is just magical. Cone area or not, those are 3k rated N3s getting just under 400watts each. There's more to it than just cone area. I don't think the same is possible with 4 dcons. Then again I don't know much about anything. Very impressive vid none the less.

I was referring ONLY to the fact that power is the least economical way to get louder. That point, as I said, is in reference to all the questions people ask about buying new amps when the power difference is insignificant. I was in no way undermining what he's done. In fact I find it quite amazing. I know I couldn't do it with any combination of equipment. I was just trying to point out that considering he only lost about 6dB with a 10x reduction in power proves that power is the least economical way to get louder. Think of it backwards. Had he gone to the 14kw from the 1500D and only gained 6dB a lot of people would think there was something wrong. That he should have gained more than that.

I think that much output from that single 1500 is amazing. I also believe that 161, 162 is crazy loud. He's got a great setup.

[Alton]

I am clamping just a hair over 3kw so that's a lot more than most will get from this amp. And I run it at .35 ohm (rise to 1.3 ohm) so that and the 18 volt account for the increase over 1500 wrms. So it's more like 750 wrms per subwoofer.

Even so, that's STILL hella loud outta that amp.

[dB Don]

In reply to the cone area is king comment I would have to say that there is a time for power and lots of it and there is a time and place for cone area over adding power. Learning what situations call for when wanting to get louder, lower or whatever is the real truth. I can explain if anyone needs.

My vehicle qualifies for IASCA middleweight class I am limited by four 15" and the Stetsoms got me a 157+ and if/when I ever see a certified show I want to knock it out of the park. That's why I need more power. The N3's were not limiting.

[Impious]

This is a PERFECT example of why cone area is king. Every time someone posts asking about upgrading amps and they hate the answers they get (which is usually keeping their current amp) from the members here they need to see this. 14kw compared to 1500 and it only made about a 6dB difference? At about a 10x difference in power? Standard theory says that 6dB difference should have been made at 6kw. Sure wish more people could understand that.

I was referring ONLY to the fact that power is the least economical way to get louder. That point, as I said, is in reference to all the questions people ask about buying new amps when the power difference is insignificant......I was just trying to point out that considering he only lost about 6dB with a 10x reduction in power proves that power is the least economical way to get louder.

I've been preaching that for years.

[dB Don]

Also keep in mind when you buy more power you have to buy more supply power as well. More batteries, wire, alternators, etc...... So what Alton's point is if you can add cone area, explore that option before you decide anything else, unless your limited by a certain class restriction.

That's all ya need to say Alton

[Alton]

In reply to the cone area is king comment I would have to say that there is a time for power and lots of it and there is a time and place for cone area over adding power. Learning what situations call for when wanting to get louder, lower or whatever is the real truth. I can explain if anyone needs.

My vehicle qualifies for IASCA middleweight class I am limited by four 15" and the Stetsoms got me a 157+ and if/when I ever see a certified show I want to knock it out of the park. That's why I need more power. The N3's were not limiting.

I can see that, and totally agree. I've just been speaking on general terms. Or at least that's what I've been trying to point out and only pointing out in reference to every one of the general questions people tend to ask about getting louder. Such as when they ask about buying a 1200 watt amp to replace their 1k amp. Or they think they're wanting to compete and ask if getting a 1500 watt amp for their pair of 12's would get them that much louder than their 800 watt amp does. General terms, nothing on the level you're building and competing at.

[Alton]

Also keep in mind when you buy more power you have to buy more supply power as well. More batteries, wire, alternators, etc...... So what Alton's point is if you can add cone area, explore that option before you decide anything else, unless your limited by a certain class restriction.

That's all ya need to say Alton

Lol, thanx, and yeah, that's where I was trying to go.

[bird333]

In reply to the cone area is king comment I would have to say that there is a time for power and lots of it and there is a time and place for cone area over adding power. Learning what situations call for when wanting to get louder, lower or whatever is the real truth. I can explain if anyone needs.

I would like to hear your explanation.