Welcome to the IHoP v.2

[dem beats 1,223]

Sean.

Let me know when you make it.

 

http://m.costco.com/D%E2%80%99Artagnan-Japanese-Wagyu-Boneless-Ribeye-Roast-A-5-Grade.product.100082950.html

[Aaron Clinton 2,372]

[///M5 2,833]

Just now, dem beats said:

Sean.

Let me know when you make it.

 

http://m.costco.com/D%E2%80%99Artagnan-Japanese-Wagyu-Boneless-Ribeye-Roast-A-5-Grade.product.100082950.html

Should grab 6 couples and do it.

[///M5 2,833]

Or 5 or 4

[dem beats 1,223]

37 minutes ago, ///M5 said:

Or 5 or 4

What are you going to make for the other 8-6 people?

[dem beats 1,223]

There is a bunch of good looking grub from the people who farmed/sources the beef.

 

http://www.dartagnan.com/

[dem beats 1,223]

Mmmmmmm

 

 

http://www.dartagnan.com/ultimate-wagyu-foie-gras-truffle-burger-recipe.html?fdid=burger-recipes

[MKader17 332]

8 hours ago, ///M5 said:

Short bus is an understatement.  Dumb pucker dances like he is a permanent fixture of the short bus situation.  No talent whatsoever at all.  Seriously the worst garbage I've ever seen attempted to be labeled music.

You heard hotline bling, didn't you?

[Julian 641]

20 hours ago, Penguin4x4 said:

Mmmm, hand held CNC

 

 

I love Applied Science's stuff, guy is super smart.

[///M5 2,833]

2 hours ago, MKader17 said:

You heard hotline bling, didn't you?

If that was bling the word is now dead

[MKader17 332]

 

 

[///M5 2,833]

That is actually better rhan what i saw but still dumb pucking retatded

[MKader17 332]

On 5/22/2016 at 6:02 PM, sandt38 said:

I watched that guy and have to say he didn't win me over. He complains about how much better everything about the 50mm Nikon lens is then he says "But it costs $150 more". First, in the listings he shows it is $116 different. Second, then he goes and talks about the 70-200 that Canon offers for $2400 is so much better than the $1800 Nikon offering is. He uses another manufacturers lens and says it is representative of the Nikon lens, then he goes and mentions for just a second that Nikon has a MKI that is "roughly" measuring in at 190. Can we see that lens?

Effectively what I got from this guy is he loves the Canon 70-200 and that the Nikon is not as good. That's cool. But the fact that the inferior 50mm lens (according to him) costs $115 less and this one lens that he spends most of this video discussing is why he sticks to Canon seems narrow minded. There is far more to a camera than a single lens, unless all you do is shoot the same shot over and over again. A more expensive lens had better be a better lens! I think he should point out that he is a portrait photographer. That lens excels at that, it is the best in his price range, so he chooses it.

Chiming in on the camera talk.

To be fair on the video the photographer specifically says the 50mm is a target for people looking to upgrade from the kit lens. For people who thought the camera/kit lens was an investment an additional $100+ on another lens is going to sting. I thought that he compared both Nikon 70-200 zooms but I could be mistaken. I see why he harps on it so much since 1/3 of his shots are where the Nikon fails.

As an anecdote. A guy I work with probably has $4K or so in camera gear over the past few years and he says that if he was starting again, he would probably go Canon. He likes shooting wildlife and family. A lot of the strictly camera talk that's been discussed here he has echoed unprompted. it's always nice to hear it in 2 places.

After seeing the videos it made me go check out the Nikon product line to get an idea. For just a 50mm prime and body I could get way more features and better photo quality for the money with Nikon. Though after that, I'm not sure where I would be going in lenses, and I'm sure that will weigh the scales heavily.

[///M5 2,833]

You can't just have a 50mm although if you did you would bever uae the kit lens again

[///M5 2,833]

Matt you indirectly asked in a text, this is the spreadsheet I showed early lol

In order of slackness

 

Foes	Mutz	67
Trek	Farley 9	68
Peter	CS-001-21	68
Surly	Ice Cream Truck	68
Salsa	Bucksaw	68
KHS	4 Season 3000	68.5
Salsa	Beargrease	68.5
Salsa	Mukluk	68.5
Ican	SN01	68.5
Ventana	El Gordo	69
Cannondale	Fat CAAD 1	69
Scott	Big Ed	69
Reeb	Donkadonk & TiDonk	69
Trek	Farley 9.6	69
Surly	Wednesday	69
Maxx	Jagamoasta	69.5
Maxx	Huraxdax	69.5
Carbon Cycle	Carbon Cycle	69.5
Salsa	Blackborow	69.5
Peter	N019	69.7
Carver	Titanium O-Beast	70
Carver	Titanium O-Beast	70
Carver	Titanium O-Beast	70
Lynskey	Fatskey	70
Lamere	190mm - FRAME only	70.5
Dengfu	FM190	70.5
Lamere	170mm - FRAME only	70.5
Surly	Moonlander	70.5
Specialized	Fatboy Trail	70.5
Specialized	Fatboy	70.5
Surly	Pugsley	70.5

[///M5 2,833]

That was sorted by head tube angle.  Here is chainstay length

Surly	Wednesday	17.1
Salsa	Beargrease	17.3
Salsa	Blackborow	17.3
Trek	Farley 9	17.32
Trek	Farley 9.6	17.32
Carbon Cycle	Carbon Cycle	17.322835
Salsa	Bucksaw	17.5
Ican	SN01	17.5
Surly	Pugsley	17.6
Peter	CS-001-21	17.7
Surly	Ice Cream Truck	17.7
Scott	Big Ed	17.7
Surly	Moonlander	17.7
Foes	Mutz	17.9
Lynskey	Fatskey	17.9
Specialized	Fatboy Trail	17.9
Specialized	Fatboy	17.9
Cannondale	Fat CAAD 1	18
Maxx	Huraxdax	18.1
Borealis	Echo (also carbon version available)	18.11
Salsa	Mukluk	18.3
Reeb	Donkadonk & TiDonk	18.3
Peter	N019	18.3
Lamere	170mm - FRAME only	18.38
Lamere	190mm - FRAME only	18.42
Dengfu	FM190	18.42
KHS	4 Season 3000	18.7
Maxx	Jagamoasta	18.7
Carver	Carbo Beast	?
Carver	Titanium O-Beast	17.3-18.1
Carver	Titanium O-Beast	17.3-18.1
Carver	Titanium O-Beast	17.3-18.1
Ventana	El Gordo	17.3-18.3

[///M5 2,833]

And by reach

Carver	Titanium O-Beast	19.2
Foes	Mutz	18.75
Salsa	Bucksaw	18.7
Surly	Wednesday	18.5
Maxx	Huraxdax	18.5
Surly	Ice Cream Truck	18.4
Carver	Titanium O-Beast	18.13
Carver	Titanium O-Beast	18.01
Specialized	Fatboy Trail	18
Specialized	Fatboy	18
Ventana	El Gordo	18
Scott	Big Ed	17.9
Maxx	Jagamoasta	17.9
Trek	Farley 9.6	17.87
Cannondale	Fat CAAD 1	17.8
Salsa	Blackborow	17.7
Surly	Moonlander	17.7
Salsa	Mukluk	17.6
Reeb	Donkadonk & TiDonk	17.6
Borealis	Echo (also carbon version available)	17.52
Salsa	Beargrease	17.5
Trek	Farley 9	17.48
Lamere	170mm - FRAME only	17.47
Lamere	190mm - FRAME only	17.32
Dengfu	FM190	17.32
KHS	4 Season 3000	17.3
Ican	SN01	17.21
Carbon Cycle	Carbon Cycle	17.185
Surly	Pugsley	16.7

[///M5 2,833]

Those are all for the XL frames, but normally the geometry stays the same and just shrinks.  Some exemptions as the larger frame naturally deals with geo a bit different. They try to have the frames ride mostly consistent.  

[///M5 2,833]

If you want it sorted some other way it is easy 

[///M5 2,833]

Go ride extremes (with a long reach though)

MAKE sure they adjust the air pressure - 8-10 NO MORE

[///M5 2,833]

If it is bouncy at all you need less air

[///M5 2,833]

There are a couple other frames that come in M/L and not XL that aren't on my list.  can't thinc of what they are atm

[///M5 2,833]

Wish I could type the letter cay right now 

[///M5 2,833]

Thinc the damn ceyboard on my laptop just shit

[///M5 2,833]

Effective top tube

Carver	Fat Bike HT	Titanium O-Beast	26.5
Carver	Fat Bike HT	Titanium O-Beast	26
Surly	Fat Bike Rigid	Ice Cream Truck	26
Maxx	Fat Bike Rigid	Jagamoasta	25.8
Ventana	Fat Bike Rigid	El Gordo	25.8
Maxx	Fat Bike FS	Huraxdax	25.8
Scott	Fat Bike HT	Big Ed	25.6
Specialized	Fat Bike HT	Fatboy Trail	25.6
Specialized	Fat Bike HT	Fatboy	25.6
Surly	Fat Bike Rigid	Wednesday	25.6
Salsa	Fat Bike FS	Bucksaw	25.6
Peter	Fat Bike FS	CS-001-21	25.6
Borealis	Fat Bike HT	Echo (also carbon version available)	25.5
Reeb	Fat Bike HT	Donkadonk & TiDonk	25.5
Cannondale	Fat Bike HT	Fat CAAD 1	25.5
Carver	Fat Bike HT	Titanium O-Beast	25.5
Surly	Fat Bike Rigid	Moonlander	25.4
Trek	Fat Bike HT	Farley 9	25.31
Trek	Fat Bike Rigid	Farley 9.6	25.3
KHS	Fat Bike HT	4 Season 3000	25.2
Salsa	Fat Bike Rigid	Beargrease	25.2
Salsa	Fat Bike HT	Mukluk	25.2
Salsa	Fat Bike Rigid	Blackborow	25.2
Carbon Cycle	Fat Bike HT	Carbon Cycle	25.1968504
Lamere	Fat Bike Rigid	190mm - FRAME only	25.19
Dengfu	Fat Bike HT	FM190	25.19
Lamere	Fat Bike Rigid	170mm - FRAME only	25.19
Lynskey	Fat Bike HT	Fatskey	25.1875
Foes	Fat Bike FS	Mutz	25
Peter	Fat Bike HT	N019	24.8
Surly	Fat Bike Rigid	Pugsley	24.6
Ican	Fat Bike HT	SN01	24.6