NS-1 and SAE-500D Prototype Pictures

[sundownz 197]

* An SAZ-4500D next to a pair of NS-1 prototypes.

* NS-1 has speaker outputs on the other side.

* Little SAE-500D Prototype hanging out -- this is not the final case; just have not tooled up the case I'll use yet.

* SAE-500D guts -- stout little amp.

* Guts of 4500D and NS-1

* Guts from the other side.

* Top view of the guts.

* Significantly larger output inductors on the NS-1 to handle the additional power output.

* While the NS-1 has fewer transformers they are much bigger.

I have not been able to locate my power clamp so no testing on either yet. I'll keep looking for it... not sure I'll be able to get to the NS-1 today or not due to the electrical requirements and the power handling requirements of something to test it on. Will have to set something up just to test it.

[S.DeYoung 967]

[Kanaworm$ 292]

Very impressive! The NS-1 is a beast!

New SAE-500 series going to utiize a similar casing as traditional SAZ series amps?

[sundownz 197]

New SAE-500 series going to utiize a similar casing as traditional SAZ series amps?

Yes it will look as similar as possible to the SAX/SAZ lines.

[Kanaworm$ 292]

SAE series looks to be small and compact. Very nice layout. Cannot wait to see more on the new SAE lineup.

[Shogen 325]

very nice... saw most of these pics on facebook.... like the small footprint SAE...

[edouble101 314]

Woot woot!

Thanks for posting

[sundownz 197]

SAE-500D Results are in... thing is a little beast of an amp! I am using my Extech Power clamp meter as usual :

380976 - Single Phase/Three Phase 1000A AC Power Clamp Meter

The results as follows -- simply a wide open test so therefore there is going to be clipping present. I am just getting an idea for what it can handle as far as abuse and what the maximum level of power that it can make without regards to THD.

1 ohm nominal - 60 Hz (two NS v.1 in ported box)

740 watts

40 v

18.5 A

2.16 ohms

0.5 nominal - 50 Hz (free air on Monster prototype v.1)

860 watts

36.5 v

23.56 A

1.54 ohms

Current Draw : 80 Amps on the dot

Voltage Drop : 14.6v to 14.0 v

Efficiency @ 14v : 76.7%

I made within a few % of 860 watts anywhere from 50-60 Hz on the test woofer.

I was pretty impressed by it... ran quite a bit of testing on it wide open like this without ever hitting protect mode on the amp or over-heating it.

So I am confident that 500-watts is a good, conservative rating for it at a reasonable THD.

[sundownz 197]

Also -- the SAE-500D should run right around $200 from an authorized dealer.

[mbrooky 0]

Also -- the SAE-500D should run right around $200 from an authorized dealer.

[sundownz 197]

I'll likely be doing testing next week on the NS-1. The 4500D was 1625 MAP and the NS-1 will be about 1900 MAP from an authorized dealer. The NS-1 actual power is expected to be ~7k on a 12v system and ~9-10k on an 18v system -- actual testing pending to make sure the design performs as expected in real applications.

I expect that we'll likely see most of these in Team Sundown / Team Sundown Russia vehicles -- with the way our Russian friends are going they might have more of them than we will in the USA

[Mr.Sears 153 + Trunk 0]

Looks great Jacob....just in case you don't know....the size of a torroid,isn't as important......as the turn ratio is.....that's what really matters

Edited June 18, 2011 by Mr.Sears 153 + Trunk

[Kanaworm$ 292]

The SAE-500 will be a great seller. Very nice price point.

[diablo_331 23]

That little sae500 is exactly what Ive been looking for to put the gf's car. Keep up the nice work Jacob!

[Randal Johnson 544]

Awesome looking amps !!!

[sefugi 166]

Fantastic!!!! I assume a presale will be coming on the 500D's??

[edouble101 314]

Once I get a vehicle that I can run dual alts the NS-1 is mine

[eggyhustles 33]

That little sae500 is exactly what Ive been looking for to put the gf's car. Keep up the nice work Jacob!

X2!!!!

[Impious 1,476]

That 500D looks pretty small in size. What are the approximate dimensions?

[ford302redneck 15]

Sweet.

I want two, you got my address, if not I'll be glad to give it to you again.

[Jays04TSX-E 1]

That NS-1 is nasty. Jacob--emailed! gotta have it!

[diablo_331 23]

Can you tell us what the controls on the 500d look like? xovers? subsonic filter? Just doing a bit of brainstorming.

[Arkahorn010 0]

Once I get a vehicle that I can run dual alts the NS-1 is mine

Just run a big alt and 4 good batts. that's what I gotta do for my lil car

[zebrabach 0]

Jacob, any idea when the SAE-500 will go up for sale?

[sundownz 197]

Some initial NS-1 testing in Brandon's truck -- we haven't gone in depth yet to see if we can squeeze more out of it; just a quick initial test before we head home today. Best clamp was 6090 watts @ 1.3 ohm actual @ 12.1 volts actual using my Extech True RMS power clamp meter about 6-8 seconds into the tone to avoid picking up initial spikes. I think we have more left in it - more testing to come as we get it dialed in a bit!

380976 - Single Phase/Three Phase 1000A AC Power Clamp Meter : This is the clamp I use here for product testing. You will find it reads much lower than using two normal clamp meters separately for voltage and current as this meter was made to measure power. So not directly comparable to any other testing but my own with the same clamp.