Sencheezy 689 Posted August 30, 2012 As I'm still going through early stages of planning for my upcoming system, I have been trying to figure out the subwoofer combo I can come up with to maximize the output of my vehicle. And as I was looking at different drivers, wanting to stay with SSA, I thought I was set on 6 12" zcons. But for shits and giggles, I looked at the SMD driver as well, and noticed how much less space they require when comparing. Utilizing the demensions I have available, I could potentially comfortably fit 4 18"s SMD drivers. So my question is, being a die hard SSA fan, I was wondering if there are any works in producing a simliar driver. I won't be ready to purchase for at least another 8 months, so I'm in no hurry, was just wondering and hoping if there was a driver in the making, or at least being talk about that shares similar specs (high rms rating & require small space). 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ricksi30 923 Posted August 30, 2012 I believe SSA Steve uses his ZCONs in a smaller than recommended setup. What kind of airspace do you have? 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ssh 924 Posted August 30, 2012 (edited) Doesn't make much sense to buy a driver based on it's rms, but hey, higher rms = better, right? I'm curious if you have modeled both drivers for comparison? Edited August 30, 2012 by stefanhinote 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
///M5 2,833 Posted August 30, 2012 I believe Steve uses his in a smaller than recommended setup. What kind of airspace do you have?Steve sells the DD-1. Basically everything he does is to rip you off. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ricksi30 923 Posted August 30, 2012 I believe Steve uses his in a smaller than recommended setup. What kind of airspace do you have?Steve sells the DD-1. Basically everything he does is to rip you off.Our Steve...not that dip shit. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
S.DeYoung 968 Posted August 30, 2012 Time to reveal the super secret AHC woofer. 0_o 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ricksi30 923 Posted August 30, 2012 Edited to be more clear. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
S.DeYoung 968 Posted August 30, 2012 I believe Steve uses his in a smaller than recommended setup. What kind of airspace do you have?Steve sells the DD-1. Basically everything he does is to rip you off.Our Steve...not that dip shit.You mean the real Steve MEAD. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bassahaulic 155 Posted August 30, 2012 (edited) You have to also take into account the airspace of the cabin after the wall is built. As to how much cone area would be effective in the space. Edited August 30, 2012 by bassahaulic 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sencheezy 689 Posted August 30, 2012 Doesn't make much sense to buy a driver based on it's rms, but hey, higher rms = better, right? I'm curious if you have modeled both drivers for comparison?Its not just the rms, its also the required space that had me interested. Also, I could give two shits about smd himself, its only the driver that I was looking at, not the name on the dustcap. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bassahaulic 155 Posted August 30, 2012 How much power are you wanting to run? How much room do you have net? What are you looking to do as far as loudness or playability? 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Julian 641 Posted August 30, 2012 If you're really going to run bawls to the walls amounts of power I would suggest running the ZCON in the lower end spectrum of box sizes. I've messed with box sizes + power, when I ran 6-7 cubes at 5k+ I ran into mechanical issues tearing spiders, etc. When I dropped it down to around 5 cubes that was the best space for running a shit ton of power. I didn't have anymore mechanical issues and got some good numbers out of it. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
///M5 2,833 Posted August 30, 2012 I believe Steve uses his in a smaller than recommended setup. What kind of airspace do you have?Steve sells the DD-1. Basically everything he does is to rip you off.Our Steve...not that dip shit.I was referring to the box size specs that Steve has on the SMD. Thought you meant Steve Mead was running an SMD, lol. Hopefully that is clear now. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stevemead08 752 Posted August 30, 2012 I run my zcons in 3 cubes each. May not be optimal but at my power level.... It's working. I'm interested in what Aaron has to say though. It will be hard to improve upon the zcon. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ssh 924 Posted August 30, 2012 I believe Steve uses his in a smaller than recommended setup. What kind of airspace do you have?Steve sells the DD-1. Basically everything he does is to rip you off.Our Steve...not that dip shit.I was referring to the box size specs that Steve has on the SMD. Thought you meant Steve Mead was running an SMD, lol. Hopefully that is clear now. I figured the recommendation would be from AA/Fi, and has a lower end point for those that are going to run tons of power and burp shit.But wtf do I know, only speculating here. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ricksi30 923 Posted August 30, 2012 I run my zcons in 3 cubes each. May not be optimal but at my power level.... It's working. I'm interested in what Aaron has to say though. It will be hard to improve upon the zcon.There was rumor of a 4" coil driver, but with how busy they have been I'm not sure if that is still on the table. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Aaron Clinton 2,372 Posted August 30, 2012 Need to say no comment at this moment, before anything is set in stone either way. May have more info soon. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nem 2,019 Posted August 30, 2012 Need to say no comment at this moment, before anything is set in stone either way. May have more info soon. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mark LaFountain 1,054 Posted August 30, 2012 I run my zcons in 3 cubes each. May not be optimal but at my power level.... It's working. I'm interested in what Aaron has to say though. It will be hard to improve upon the zcon.There was rumor of a 4" coil driver, but with how busy they have been I'm not sure if that is still on the table.No Comment 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sencheezy 689 Posted August 30, 2012 Need to say no comment at this moment, before anything is set in stone either way. May have more info soon. Thank you for answering sir, really appreciated.I run my zcons in 3 cubes each. May not be optimal but at my power level.... It's working. I'm interested in what Aaron has to say though. It will be hard to improve upon the zcon.There was rumor of a 4" coil driver, but with how busy they have been I'm not sure if that is still on the table.No Comment Great to hear. Thank you 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mccleery3 166 Posted September 1, 2012 Senchez just jumped up & did the happy dance for hearing even the slightest possibility of this being offered in the future 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dictator 39 Posted September 1, 2012 Running my 18s 5cubesfor each after port theyblove it 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shizzzon 461 Posted September 1, 2012 Wonder what the new one would be called?We have a D-G-I-X-Z(con) right now...Maybe we'll get into numbers now?The 4Con? 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ssh 924 Posted September 1, 2012 Wonder what the new one would be called?We have a D-G-I-X-Z(con) right now...Maybe we'll get into numbers now?The 4Con?The 4Chan driver. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites